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Jeez. They've always had pretty decent colts coming through the school etc. considering they play there...

but yeah, its obviously not looking pretty, there is no hiding from that.

We did.. although we have played a few trials last few weeks with OK numbers. I was shocked we pulled out altogether... however as I understand it, the decision to pull out had more to do with the div 1 3rd party opposition that was arranged for us. Decision was taken it'd be better for our...

Fair enough. I 100% agree though and you're right in that those 2 clubs in Epping and Hills are great examples. All I'd say is maybe in the case of those clubs with the exception of Beecroft they aren't in too overly saturated areas which helps. Absolutely credit where its due though, both of...

was the footy_footy comment removed for some reason? He's absolutely bang on the money. There is still definitely a bit of a dodgy whiff around subbies rugby. St Pats 2013 Kentwell Cup Grand Final Man of the Match ends up being nominated for the Clark Medal last year at HAC? Maybe there is a...

Very true. The "well-run clubs" are so easy to keep running well.... However obviously for whatever reason some clubs have struggled and for those clubs in the current environment it is nearly impossible to get up off the canvas. I'm not even saying re-introducing payments is necessarily the...

Why do div 1 and 2 clubs need 5 teams each? I can't think of any other completely amateur sporting organisation anywhere else on the planet that would demand that of its participants? Its a structure from a bygone era where there was an ingrained culture of playing rugby beyond school. That no...

While I agree with you to a certain extent, the issue remains that there isn't the playing stock to sustain the competitions in their current format and those well run clubs won't have any opponents in 10 years, unless they want to just arrange Halligan's games against one another.

Single most intelligent thing I've ever read on this forum. People may not like to admit it but the banning of player payments has had an absolutely enormous impact on player numbers. Not simply those players leaving, but the trickle down effect it has. The numbers are shot and the standard is...

Hearing from an old head at poor old Saints they have 30 blokes absolute tops. Very sad news for one of the great clubs - not sure how they play division 4 with those numbers but if anyone will find a way, they will. Absolutely my favourite opposition club - wish them all the best.

This forum is really going downhill.... bring back the good old days of comparing newport to the handicapped...

3 is just too generic to be true. Although they're equally potentially all BS. Fairly certain Saints out B-town in 3rd div too.

1) could be saints.. I've heard numbers are looking very very dire unfortunately. Also hearing they are unlikely to get a start in div 3 and that Blacktown are very keen to come up and look a much stronger prospect in subbies eyes.

I agree, I don't think it helped our club long term at all. Most those guys at our club were former Gordon players that were coming to an end anyway, and the stopping of payments kind of coincided with their retiring. Was definitely suss when a few popped up at clubs on the opposite side of...

The issue is more subbies wouldn't let us go down if we wanted to... they're doing everything they can to try and accommodate us and save the division I'm certainly not against us (brothers) dropping.

I I absolutely accept Brothers used to pay players, and I find it hard to believe HAC don't yo this day, but anyone who thinks it wasn't more widespread is just kidding themselves. Newport drew a GF against us, who would've been one of the most highly paid teams ever in subbies. You just can't...

Firstly, as far as I know the club you're talking about isn't Brothers. The treasurer of the club is a close family member of mine, so is the first grade coach. Off the field, the club is in a very strong financial position and the bar takings are absolutely not material in the scheme of things...

Are "financial trouble$" referring to the club facing fines or suffering financially through no longer being licensed? Brothers would be less financially reliant on the bar than any other club in the division, or potentially the whole of subbies for that matter. We just need some players and...

yeah guys, fucks sake pull your heads in....

Any cash on offer from said club? Where do I sign.... Nobody from Brothers is in any danger of leaving to play for Lane Cove if that's the club in question, as admirable as their social media banter has been over the past few months....