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  1. Lorenzo

    The Israel Folau saga

    And what of the teenager raised a christian who thinks he might be gay? yknow, that group with the really high suicide rates? Screw them, right?
  2. Lorenzo

    The Israel Folau saga

    The standard contract inevitably has clauses around social media etc. Any confusion around amendments to folau's deal probably reflect verbal or other non-contractual assurances that were offered (which may or may not be binding).
  3. Lorenzo

    The Israel Folau saga

    Are you aware that not all employment opportunities in Australia are administrated by Rugby Australia? Folau is free to work anywhere that will have him, and if there's so many people in his corner, finding suitable employment ought to be trivial. If he can't get a job, maybe he's wrong after...
  4. Lorenzo

    The Israel Folau saga

    You make these remarks as if they are unimpeachable truths, yet most people actually think that there are grey areas and that some things are worse than others. I.e that going after gays is not ok on the basis that you don't choose to be gay, and that, whilst going after alcoholics isn't...
  5. Lorenzo

    Wallabies 2019 Thread

    Folau's try scoring is well documented, but I wonder how many points we have conceded as a result of his inability to execute a decent clearing kick or position himself in defence.
  6. Lorenzo

    The Israel Folau saga

    No one has an issue with folau's 'belief system'. His employer required that he would refrain from making public remarks of a certain nature, and he couldn't stop himself. It is actually achievable to worship in private and if he needs to lament the existence of gays, he could do it at his home...
  7. Lorenzo

    The Israel Folau saga

    Yes I don't even see anything complicated about the scenario. He got warned, didn't heed the warning, and has to go. Seperately, I think RA could use this as a watershed moment if they play it right. Like this could be the start of an actual no-dickheads policy, and the end of paying mercenary...
  8. Lorenzo

    The Israel Folau saga

    He could argue that being Christian and Islander are inexorably connected but its not likely to help. There's absolutely no evidence that he was discriminated against on account of his religion, and plenty of evidence that his religion was of literally no impact when he was hired. Both teams he...
  9. Lorenzo

    The Israel Folau saga

    The issue he is likely to face travelling down that path is that he wasnt sacked due to his religious beliefs. His religious beliefs have been broadly known for sometime, and indeed his employer gave him a new contract when they were fully aware of these beliefs. So its not his religion or his...
  10. Lorenzo

    The Israel Folau saga

    Yeah and they're wrong about that too. They believe all sorts of wild shit - that doesn't lend legitimacy to any of it.
  11. Lorenzo

    The Israel Folau saga

    Sorry mate, but being judged on your beliefs (including which religion you feel a part of) is not the same as being judged on your sexuality. At least in Australia, you are free to choose your religion and free to choose what you believe. So if you wind up believing stuff that other people...
  12. Lorenzo

    The Israel Folau saga

    Liking doesn't show great judgment but not any worse than putting yourself in position to be in multiple videos where white powder is being inhaled from a plate. We already know many.of these guys lack even mediocre judgment.
  13. Lorenzo

    The Israel Folau saga

    I think that it's clear that the mitigating circumstances would need to be actually mitigating, like his Instagram was hacked, and not merely smells-a-bit-like-mitigating, which would be "Jesus is important to me" They feel comfortable publicly stating he is likely to be terminated precisely...
  14. Lorenzo

    The Israel Folau saga

    You ought not forget that his current deal was drafted under the cloud of the 2018 gays-to-hell fiasco. It's entirely possible that it was done so with non-compliance with the social media policy (or actual terms in the contract) being stipulated as a fundamental breach.
  15. Lorenzo

    The Israel Folau saga

    Thank god. Not doing this would have showed that individual players are bigger than the game and frankly, he's not nearly good enough to even warrant considering that. Its not like the run of trophies we've had since he came aboard is suddenly at risk
  16. Lorenzo

    The Israel Folau saga

    Can we be rid of this guy already? There are so many other places his >1m a year can be better spent. If his views are of such personal importance to him, he should find an employer that embraces them, surely.
  17. Lorenzo

    Australia v England

    So you're making up random shit. I suspected. Say something wild and when called on it, shrug and be like I DUNNO, it's just an opinion! And so you know, rugby survived 98 years of Rugby League professionalism. I am not an amateur era nostalgia enthusiast but this idea that the game would...
  18. Lorenzo

    Australia v England

    I'm being dramatic?? You are the one saying that our Super sides would cease to exist. You've provided no evidence to support that. Beale went OS and the Tahs survived. Genia. Pocock. Nau. To'omua. We've lost heaps of wallabies, both stars and marginals, for short and long periods. Whether or...
  19. Lorenzo

    Australia v England

    Super rugby is already a shit business that no one watches, yet we pay people a shitload of money to play in it. Why? I raised South Africa on the basis that rugby hasn't fallen off the face of the earth there, despite the assertion that opening up the selection market would do just that.
  20. Lorenzo

    Australia v England

    I said we wanted more players going OS, not less. But more != everyone, for reasons that should be obvious. We pay Folau (for example) $1m (say) for what, 10 months of his time. Thing is, we aren't actually generating any revenue for 7 of those months because he is tied up in the low as-fuck...
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