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I was hoping they would do better without Godwin and that would show he has been a problem, but obviously that didn't happen. Time to give some new players a shot. Would like to see Ala on the wing and Makara actually getting some time off the bench. Could give McGregor a go at fullback...

Macintyre has been surprisingly good off the bench so deserves a crack. Also probably a lot to ask of a 20 year old to back up every week in his first proper season and get bashed around, this week Fiji would have targeted him as well for some big hits so maybe good for a rest

It definitely wasn't a knock on. By this stage as a Force fan this was the final straw and toys had been well and truly thrown from the cot. One thing that annoyed me is it just felt the ref was so quick to give penalties. If the ball comes out the scrum I think just call play on. There...

I like the balance with fergus back at 6, we should not lose a lineout this week and hopefully steal a few. The force have a great chance to really push for finals now, we have tahs and fiji back to back in NSW and then 5 of the next 6 at home so a pretty good run into the NZ crossover games

I like this Charlie Gamble, he looks like he is going to come over to clean your pool but he has a good running game

Godwin has never been a threat in attack but I always thought he was a solid defender but yes he was embarrassed last night. Shame kuridrani was passed his prime and didn’t work out maybe we need to look at kuenzle and kahui together next week otherwise just give makara a crack at 13 and see...

Well played reds. O’Connor killed us

Should take the points still I reckon hopefully prove me wrong

Hoping to see makara get game time later

You must be watching a different game

fines would look good in wallaby #21 jersey Mataele has shocking hands

That has to be a yellow card. Direct head contact is red but because player was ducking it gets mitigated to yellow. Not mitigated to nothing?

The old force would have backed up last weeks good performance with another close loss or a poor performance here so hopefully things have changed and this new side really has improved

I know it is only 1 game in but hopefully the Force get more of a look in at Wallaby selection time this year. FLW (Fergus Lee-Warner) has to finally get picked and Kaituu must be the best hooker we have, his throwing was outstanding. Anstee was everywhere as well, has bulked up a bit but still very explosive.

Yep would have preferred to start against tahs, Fiji or rebels but excited to see how we go

I think most of us know where it is going to go ....

Thanks. Yes I guess this was my point. We now have players choosing Union over League in WA (e.g. Callan's swapped from League) whereas previously it was the other way around, e.g. Rona and Peni both went to League because no Western Force and we eventually got them back

You do realise that when the Force got cut from super rugby the majority of the best young players moved East or to League. Looking at the main squad I count at least 10 players that have grown up in WA, I think that's pretty good and I am sure a lot more than the Rebels

Yes it was Kuenzel that started at 12. McGregor went into 10 in second half and Strachan to full back. Agree Alla looks good, looking forward to seeing him and Mataele on the wings. Interestingly it looked like they were running Stander at 6 with Anstee at 8, Koteka at 7 and then Callan...

Pretty sure it isn't happening. Doubt they would want to go over East for an extra 2 weeks just for a trial game when they are not sure when they will be allowed home. I know the risk is they will be underprepared but haven't heard they were leaving