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I wouldn't like to pick a score between New Zealand and Australia if the final happened tomorrow. Argentina (and the Boks) only have outside chances at the moment.

Disagreed. Anyway, this discussion has probably run its course. We won't agree on it in a month of Sundays. Thanks for being civil about it, though. I saw some nasty discussions re: world cup on Twitter recently. Which is also the reason I don't have a Twitter account any more.

Yep. And from the replay he surely couldn't have been sure. Would you make that call if you had that evidence? I wouldn't - not many would.

Exactly. We can discuss so many things in this match. That try from the ruck from Horne, for example. I think there was enough doubt in that one too to at least refer it. I don't necessarily agree with your assessment of the last penalty, but neither do you with mine. Which is exactly the...

Lol. Not trying to change what happened. At least many other Aussies admitted that it was lucky. You don't have to agree with them, of course. ;) You, however, seem to be scrambling like a dog with a guilty conscience, trying to get the attention off the subject, which is enough proof for me...

It's a laws discussion. If you don't like us discussing it, maybe return after the final. Or not.

From other angles at full speed it looks 100% like it came off Phipps, though. The live angle you're talking about, is directly on the opposite side of where Joubert is, so it may come down to perception and angles, but from the other side 45 degrees to the Wallaby goal line, it looks like...

I think yours is wrong, Gno Stic. If Phipps last touched it, according to 11.3(c), the Scot is onside. 11.7 is only valid if 11.3(c) didn't happen, but probably did. You can also argue that the Scot didn't knock it forward, but backwards into Phipps, who knocked it backwards into the Scot...

This was uncertain enough that it should have been accidental offside. He had options that he didn't use.

Lol. So I was way out with my predictions. Ireland for the final - what the hell was I thinking?

If Phipps touched it last - which is still 50/50 even on slow motion replays - he was not offside. Fair call would have been accidental offside if Joubert was unsure - which he wasn't, but for no obvious reason, as everyone else is still unsure. But as was mentioned, this was far from his only...

Good thing I'm a Saffa living in Pretoria then. ;)

Lions by 30.

I'll give my opinion even though you excluded me from the equation. - Match them up front physically. No way we'll beat them there, but smash them as hard as they smash us in the collision. - Be more accurate at the breakdown. Before the world cup, we seemed to be dominant, or at least gained...

Agreed. Which is why it should have been ruled accidental offside, and a scrum. If even by slow motion you cannot determine it a 100%, how the hell was the player supposed to know, at full speed, in the heat of the moment, who it last touched? At full speed, you can fully see why the Scot...

You know as well as I do that rugby(union) doesn't work like that - the most disciplined side gets rewarded too. If a side is outscored 5 tries to 0, and still manages to win a match via 12 penalties, then I'm sorry but the losing team were inept in terms of discipline and fully deserve a...

They were ranked 3rd after the 2007 world cup.

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Last week it was around Tuesday midday IIRC. Should be the same this week.