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We almost have a consensus on the first XV. No one tell Matt Burke!

Wallaby Team: 1. Benn Robinson 2. Stephen Moore 3. James Slipper 4. James Horwill 5. Nathan Sharpe 6. Rocky Elsom (c) 7. David Pocock 8. Wycliff Palu 9. Will Genia 10. Quade Cooper 11. Drew Mitchell 12. James O'Connor (seems obvious - but...) 13. Adam Ashley-Cooper...

France has introduced a salary cap, although it is larger than the one proposed here: £7.1m. The Guinness Premiership clubs in England have a £4m limit.

This might be a controversial opinion, but I'll put it out there. Everyone on here who 'hates' other Australian teams seems to be a Reds fan. Maybe it's just a statistical fluke, or maybe I've only seen the Reds posts, but that's how it's coming over to me.

You need to go back to Planet Rugby where that kind of behaviour is accepted.

No one said the Reds front row weren't good. It was probably pretty much line ball. But what Finsbury Girl actually said (and barbarian objected to) was this: Which I think is right out of order!

Here is a good Australian legal analysis.

You should make some money advising national coaches to adopt this strategy in all the other tests. You'll be rich.

That's never been my experience with rugby. It has always been a collegiate kind of sport, barbecues after the game, hail fellow well met, that kind of thing. 'Hating' other Australian teams sounds suspiciously like State of Origin to me.

Absolutely. Australian rugby is best served by having five competitive teams, and having differences in coaching, preparation, skills and playing style competing to determine the winning team. What competes, improves. If money is what competes, then it it only money that improves.

The difference is the Brumbies, Bulls and Stormers lost against the Reds. I seem to remember the Waratahs won, 30-6. >:D

Impressive misanthropy!

Why? It wouldn't make any difference to their results against the Reds if they improve.

Yes, but Spies is actually faster running backwards than forward. He only runs forward to give other players a chance.

Dennis plays well every time he comes on. He has a real dynamism with the ball in hand that our other forwards seem to lack.

Yes, but all of us can write badly.

I'm living here temporarily, tranquility, with my gf. I'll be going over to WA soon. I do like Qld though.

Yes, Brisbane was somewhat poetically licensed on my part... I'm in Cleveland. And it's dry here now.

Those are very good arguments, Bowside. I think there are benefits to Australian rugby in both positions.

Bowside, I think the top class players are precisely the ones who should be encouraged to move. Having them leave opens up new spaces in the nursery states for new young stars to emerge, and so the cycle goes on. Until new areas like Melbourne have been going for quite some time, there is no way...