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I don't think Cheika wants his team to "save" a test match. He wants them to win it. The choice to go for the penalty was a direct reflection of this.

Really well-rounded player. Great kicker, defended well, solid in attack. Really impressed by him.

Pocock will be a huge loss. But I don't think it's turnovers we need. I think the bigger problem is preventing turnovers from the opposition - and general discipline at the breakdown.

There was more then just that. We lost because England made turnovers and forced penalties. 1. We have a bad exist strategy in our halve of the field. 2. Often in attack our players isolate themselves away from support / or support aren't there making turnovers easy for England. 3...

This. I actually think it was a smart choice. Could have taken 5mins to get a try and then their is no time for a restart. Whereas a penalty means you can keep the ball in play and go overtime to get a try

we suck

Foley better kick this.... god damn we need a good kicker

Hard to come back from here im afraid

Told ya we should be worried about the scrum

Look like he did go for it and missed. Or maybe changed his mind last second

Lilo is lucky didn't Joseph for the English try. Could have been red carded for tackling a player without the ball.

How are we bloody losing. This is going to be a tough half. Hope our boys can keep this up for 80mins. Compounding small errors and discipline have let us down.

DHP having a great game

So much width in our play - was not expecting this with Kerevi and Kuridrani and Foley - they are all passing well.

This is beautiful

Izzy passing well

George bloody Smith has taught the English to crocodile-roll Pocock out of the breakdown :mad:

I think that ratio have vastly diminished post RWC. The reason I believe this is because I would have picked Cooper back then. But now I believe without a doubt in my mind Foley to the best flyhalf in Australia - with daylight second. I think it would be more like 80% prefer Foley now. But...

Yes Foley destroyed the poms. But what did he do for the wallabies before that game? As I recall he was heavily criticised for the same things your criticising Farrell for - failing to direct his team around the park. Half of G&GR wanted Cooper. You seem to be judging Farrell solely on that...

What about 2012 Flyhalf Lilo? ;) I know I should probably let that small stint of superb form go but boy I loved it. (it could have been 2011?)