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Crusaders 1 Wyatt Crockett 2 Corey Flynn 3 Owen Franks 4 Luke Romano 5 Sam Whitelock 6 George Whitelock 7 Matt Todd 8 Kieran Read (c) 9 Andy Ellis 10 Dan Carter 11 Zac Guildford 12 Tom Taylor 13 Ryan Crotty 14 Tom Marshall 15 Israel Dagg 16 Ben Funnell 17 Joe Moody 18 Luke Whitelock 19...

Reds 1 Greg Holmes 2 Saia Fainga'a 3 James Slipper 4 Rob Simmons 5 James Horwill (c) 6 Ed Quirk 7 Liam Gill 8 Jake Schatz 9 Will Genia 10 Quade Cooper 11 Chris Feauai-Sautia 12 Jono Lance 13 Ben Tapuai 14 Dom Shipperley 15 Ben Lucas 16 Albert Anae 17 Jono Owen 18 Ed O'Donoghue 19 Radike Samo...

Reds 1 Greg Holmes 2 Saia Fainga'a 3 James Slipper 4 Rob Simmons 5 James Horwill (c) 6 Ed Quirk 7 Liam Gill 8 Jake Schatz 9 Will Genia 10 Quade Cooper 11 Chris Feauai-Sautia 12 Jono Lance 13 Ben Tapuai 14 Dom Shipperley 15 Ben Lucas 16 Albert Anae 17 Jono Owen 18 Ed O'Donoghue 19 Radike Samo...

Crusaders 1 Wyatt Crockett 2 Corey Flynn 3 Owen Franks 4 Luke Romano 5 Sam Whitelock 6 George Whitelock 7 Matt Todd 8 Kieran Read (c) 9 Andy Ellis 10 Dan Carter 11 Zac Guildford 12 Tom Taylor 13 Ryan Crotty 14 Tom Marshall 15 Israel Dagg 16 Ben Funnell 17 Joe Moody 18 Luke Whitelock 19...

Well then en_force_er I shift all blame to him.

Hill is a fine strategist, but a piss-poor skills coach. Much like Foley is a good skills and breakdown coach, but one of the worst strategists.

1. Scott Sio 2. Saia Fainga'a 3. Paddy Ryan 4. Hugh Pyle (vc) 5. Sam Carter 6. Peter Kimlin (c) 7. Colby Fainga'a 8. Ben McCalman 9. Nic White 10. Matt To'omua 11. Luke Morahan 12. Kyle Godwin 13. Rob Horne 14. Cam Crawford 15. Jesse Mogg 16. Siliva Siliva 17. Albert Anae 18. Luke Jones 19. Will...

I'm really starting to like Phipps, he was good for however long he was on against the Lions in game 3 and has been great for the Rebels. Never without enthusiasm.

Potential team for this round. Besides Tom Marshall, there are basically no form outside backs. Scrum Halves are awful, of course. No confidence in the centres at all.

pjfairbairn That looks like a solid team. Could probably have an even win-loss if it all goes their way. I would expect Stirzaker to get as many starts, if not more than Burgess. Horie may also start more often too.

Super Rugby Qualifier A Match : Crusaders vs Reds Venue: AMI Stadium, Christchurch, New Zealand Referee: Jaco Peyper (South Africa) Assistant referees: Garratt Williamson (New Zealand), Mike Fraser (New Zealand) Television match official: Vinny Munro (New Zealand) Super Rugby Qualifier B...

Well Brumbies supporters, it has been 9 years coming - Finals Rugby! I hope to see a good 20000 out at the stadium this sunday!

McCutcheon? (If he's staying)

Rebels were great for 40 minutes. Otherwise, we all sucked.

I'm not writing off the Brumbies yet, they should have beaten the Bulls at Loftus last year. Will still be the hardest game of the season for them though.

If Quade can be selected despite bad games, so can To'omua.

Jesus, I thought the Tahs and Reds were bad...

It's the Brumbies that are the joke today :(

Okay, now Jake White gives them water torture and they remember how to play.

Am I just biased or is the ref awful?