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I am at best ambivalent on Thorn closing out. In contrast to this, I'm hoping we can see some respect and recognition for his contribution. Don't forget the revolving doors through to co interim head coach scenario between Link and Thorn. Brad has definitely seen stability return the club. As...

Something's wrong, Lightblue, but maybe mate, let's see how things go a little longer than round 1? Brumbies scored 3 tries and you imply that Edmed was primarily responsible in D for all 3. Suggesting that bar Edmed, Waratahs were a 3 try to none better team on the day. You absolutely sure...

The stats have Edmed with 7 tackles and 2 misses. This should probably be discussed in the match thread.

I don't think it is. In fact any player coming from the bench with 30min aught be in consideration - if they were good enough.

Boring probably not the best term. It is simply hard to impossible to build any buy-in to any of the teams. Which dampens excitement.

Looks like there will need to be a need to invoke a "no commentary" clause on this thread. Brumbies complaining about other franchises having more fans, but fuck me, noise has a quality all of it's own.

It is included at ESPN SCRUM. Of course you presume accuracy in the stat gathering, but the info is easily accessible. Example: Cru v Chiefs: Crusaders 174/224 74% Chiefs 136/154 88% https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/matchstats?gameId=596220&league=242041

This is possibly an uncomfortable banana peel for the Reds. Force from a win, Reds from a poor start and embarrassing loss. Force at home. Reds with a hopeless fade and Force came home with wet sails. Reds back to the "tired repeating myself" discipline issues. Force fans aught be feeling a...

1. Lambert 2. Porecki 3. Ala'alatoa 4. Frost 5. Thrush Williams 6. Valetini 7. Wright 8. Wilson 9. Lonergan 10. Carter Gordon 11. Toole 12. Stewart 13. Ikitau 14. Jorgensen 15. Petaia Apologies at missing the ineligibility.

I thought most of the kicking duels were advantage Reds. Short passing is good in tight but I'm not sure of it's role in kick return.

Thought Petaia looked pretty comfortable at the back. Other than injuries, it will depend on how the Reds want to structure the team. I don't see Petaia filling a second playmaker role, and I don't see him particularly taking control of the back line positioning - but maybe I'm wrong there? If...

Putting on my red coloured glasses - I'd take the the first 30 and bank it. Add improvement on what followed, starting with keeping 15 blokes on the field.

I don't think recruitment is the problem. If you look at our lock depth, then compare it to the locks we have recruited and developed over (say) the last 5 years, I think we've done well. And we can give Thorn some kudos there. Similar for loose forwards. Recruitment of the front row is the same...

I thought Lynagh had a good game, but look, espn scrum stats has him for 3 tackles and 4 misses. Noting that he was being protected in D (which is appropriate). The effort up front did nothing to help the guy, but he does need to build up more. Playing him is a risk, perhaps one that makes...

I suspect that there is more happening than just discipline. Fitness comes to mind. The counter to that despondency is where we are in the tight 5 which will impact pretty much everything. It's just round 1, but surely the "Thorn is cooked" theme is building?

It's a romp for the Kiwis now.

Canes seem comfortable. No excuses.

Possibly the most bizarre YC I've seen

I'm pretty sure that the importance of discipline was a season target. Again.

Reds looking pretty sharp 1 to 15