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Unless there has been change, that is what I'm told. Rugby is like school over there.

You are isolating and missing a major point. In NZ there is only school boy rugby, club rugby starts when you leave school. There is a pretty significant difference.

Cheers. Same / Same a player associated with a SS club

Yep

And create growth and opportunities so we grow out of having only 3 starting halves out of 5.

AFL tried Carmichael Hunt & Izzy on a rep program type system and it was a clusterfuck - players generally come through the club system at some point, or have successfully changed codes. Where did they play there junior rugby ;) That was a very special age group Hooper / Luke Jones /...

Hooper, bit like George Smith, who played grass roots rugby with Manly, and their grass roots coaches through the years take full credit for what they have achieved don't get any thanks from the ARU - hmmm. Both got selected very early on and i believe reached 20 test caps before he reached...

Maybe that's because Tom Hill messed up the in / out process ;) .

Don't disagree. But I'd hate it to go as far as how money raised on the BBQ flowed back through the club.

If clubs can justify reasons for grants, and receive funding - same way as a business plan going to a bank. And clubs execute and show results - how the club disburses money / operates "profitably" / "in best interest" is not the worry of the ARU. Now - before people jump and rip into a one...

I still say if club want to do the work, and can justify grants that ring the ARU bells grants should be paid.

Baaaaa Baaaaa - bit of sitting on the fence there, seeing both sides - well presented. I started another thread because of this "What is grass roots" and this one has the topic raised frequently. To me, I have a huge paddock and I want to see more grass that simple. From the U6's, up to...

Yeah it is, spot on. I didn't provide a one liner asking the question. I provided a summary of the reason and provided contact details. The reason was along the lines of the last couple of pages - growing the number of kids playing, something i believe the ARU has a vested interest in. If in...

I spent the time explaining, what, why, target - plans. The process also requires a phone number so they could have always called.

I havent tested how much info, and at what levels can be pulled from; http://rugbyunion.resultsvault.com/common/pages/public/home.aspx?entityid=53029 But gee every NSW registered player (mini's to grade) appears there and it is in a public domain - top right hand corner, player name and search.

Yes got nothing though, and that dissapointed me.

Sent an email to the ARU seeking stats on other codes. Explained what and why and asked if records of number of kids playing different codes in certain age groups. They said "We do not provide statistics on any other sporting code other than Rugby Union" I would have thought it would be...

Norths structured. Manly all sorts of combos. Rats some players rested.

I think getting it out there from both sides could result in good things.

I think the levels above need to do work, they have also said something has to happen. I dont direct it at other Shute Shield clubs though because im not in position to, i dont think the ARU is in a position to either because they are out of touch. I dont mean that in a negative way, it is...