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Pretty sure only Spirit players got cards.

Spirit need a stronger tight 5. I wonder if/when Pek Cowan and RHP are back.

Thanks for the updates Shiggins.

Ryan Louwrens.

Going from FoxSports- Spirit first blood 8-0. Harry Jones. Unconverted 8-6.

Do you need a win that badly, Blue?

If the ARU really wanted the Force gone, they'd give us Richard Graham back. After one season even the dyed in the wool fans will be begging the ARU to put us out of our misery.

Why not? Ban them both. It is hard enough to defend the maul without players from the attacking team attacking the head of maul defenders. It should be cut and dried- no contact above the shoulders (i.e. no head, no neck).

I imagine Henry Speight will get a call up too which will be a relief for most sides.

That is a very, very strong Vikings pack. The back 5 of the forward pack are Super Rugby regulars. Arnold is a Wallaby. Staniforth isn't far off. Butler wouldn't look out of place either. Most of the NRC sides will get destroyed by the Vikings. The forward strength is enough to mitigate a...

Sorry I should have clarified that: Things Wallabies fans can agree on. I don't know what the deal is regarding a meeting. As many commentators have said- Who cares? It isn't going to change the fact that we were outclassed. As for Cheik's other complaints.... Yes, referees should give...

Things I think we can all agree on: 1. Steve Hanson is a wanker. 2. New Zealand are just plain better than us. Better passing, better kicking, better at infringing, better at discreet niggle. Why are we surprised at what we have been pinged for that New Zealand haven't? It's nothing new...

Anyone know if the replacement prop, Jack Payne, is the same guy from the 2014 U20s who played lock?

The whole team should sit down and watch the hit film "How Stella got her Groove Back" and take notes.

We need to expand NZ to 6 or 7 teams (Nelson and North Harbour or Hawkes Bayish area). That will dilute their talent a bit and even things up. In 20 years we have 2 new Oz teams and 2 new RSA teams and 0 from NZ.

Good start by the Spirit to get a win against a solid Rising side. Got to fix that scrum, but we are fortunate to facing off against arguably two of the weaker sides in the next two weeks.

It is a weak Spirit team, but you might be in for a surprise. The Rising pack isn't amazing. The front row is average and the backrow has some fairly good but fairly green players. I guess it all comes down to conditioning. A lot of the Spirit team have just come out of the local finals. Whether...

I have. It's the same players that have seen better results in the past. You can't tell me that the likes of Richard Graham, Michael Foley, Stephen Larkham and Daryl Gibson are great coaches. You can't have an entire nation out of form. But Michael Cheika can't blame the Super Rugby coaches...

I'm not willing to accept that. When an entire team is playing like shit that is a coach issue. The same Wallabies team performed far better in the same test last year. I don't expect the Wallabies to win, but this is disgraceful.

Horne defending 13, Folau 15, DHP 14 with: 13. Folau 14. Horne 15. DHP