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Give it up. All of you. It's over. Faults to be found on both sides. Time to move on. Lessons learnt by all.

Probably get flamed for this post but. . . I thought Samo was your weakest link. I went back and watched the SF a couple of times again focussing on individual players. When I watched Samo I noticed that his workrate was the worst of the forwards from either team. Even when he went into...

To an extent I agree, but then Quade could afford to swap some of that god given talent on his feet for a bit of maturity and composure and he'd actually end up a better player. I think he'll be OK, these injuries happen all the time now and sports surgery has come a long way in a short time...

I wonder if you are underestimating the difference in level between super rugby and tests, particularly big tests. The difference isn't so much in personnel, although this is a factor, but in the systems and planning that the other teams have. Super XV coaches have to coach in a week in week...

If you are hard on defence 5 metres from your line and you can slow the ball down "accidentally on purpose" illegally, are you more likely to do it if you know the result will be 2 points or 3 points?

It might also encourage teams to infringe too much. Some here will say that yellow cards are the answer, but I sometimes think that too many YC's spoil the game also. Maybe there needs to be a green card - 5 mins for professional foul, back on if the other team scores (other than from the...

The rub is that the players will only start to rumble if the writing is on the wall, but the writing on the wall won't happen till the players rumble... Catch 22. Deans will be yours for at least another 2 years.

Graham Henry: "I think Quade has brought a wee bit of that on himself. He's got a wee bit of mileage to make up and he probably made up a bit tonight. I think you have to earn that respect. He's lost a bit of respect with some of his actions in the previous Test matches. That's natural. But he...

Other than a cow, to what could you be referring?

Not true. (My emphasis) In any case as a referee I would have grave concerns about the safety of players in an 8 v 3 scrum.

Bronze: Aus 28 - Wales 32 . Both teams will fling it about, defence might be a bit shaky. Final: NZ 22 - France 6 . Picking it will be a similar game to the semi.

Graham Henry: "I think Quade has brought a wee bit of that on himself. He's got a wee bit of mileage to make up and he probably made up a bit tonight. I think you have to earn that respect. He's lost a bit of respect with some of his actions in the previous Test matches. That's natural. But he...

Yep. And the same for a dropgoal (which should be reduced to 2 points). Little tweaks like that are needed, not wholesale changes.

Maybe France will say - no we have worn a non clashing blue for a hundred odd years, we'll wear a non clashing blue this time.

There are minor tweaks that could and probably will be made to the rules regarding scrums, the breakdowns and the TMO but fundamentally the game is in a very good place. Rugby isn't for everyone, and shouldn't sell its soul to try to gain more fans.

This still applies when we play Scotland. Last end of year tour we wore black over there. For some reason they haven't toured here since 2000 (and wore navy blue) but I think its safe to assume we would change for them.

What a ridiculous thread. I remember being at the SCG watching cricket games where the crowds booed and booed every time Pat Symcox bowled or fielded the ball. I remember having a whole cup of beer tipped over me when I was 15 at the SFS when I was wearing an All Black jersey. I've been to a...

If it is then unless Kaino gets sent off in the final, I'd say he is odds on to win. Surely.

He wasn't all over the park like he sometimes is, but what he did he did very well. That tackle he made on Genia after the Pocock turnover (despite the shoulder charge from Horwill) was sensational and a real coach killer. It was perfect timing if you look closely at it. A turnover there had...

Lets give Quade a few years before we start discussing how he compares with people who are long retired. He is the sort of player that should probably have not been rushed into test football this early, give him a few years to mature and blossom (and chill the #$%@ out!). Unfortunately for...