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There we are , Force beaten by the Bulls, good contest with good referreing by a South African ref ,in contrast to the Kings game. No complaints , no one's "moaning" as you put it.

That assumes you know what the ref is going to do , & in this instance I don't think you could, except that the 50/50's generally went the way of the Kings , & I had the impression the ref was unconsciously caught up in the significance of the moment, & the Kings first game.

To get back on topic , after several weeks of training by all the clubs , which clubs are the 2012 rep players going to ?

Both.

Yes , you're right , they'll surprise me if they win another game.

Can't see either team beating anyone else in the competition . One of the worst games of rugby I've seen at this level.

According to their web site , West Harbour will have 2 new junior clubs this year.

Ultimately the interpretation of the laws is up to the referees , whether it is those who are on the field , or those who direct them. It is up to them to interpret the laws in the way that best serves the overall interests of the game of Rugby. Rule changes are introduced with the aim of...

I thought the yellows in the Force/Rebels game were inappropriate to the situation. If you referee to the letter of the law you can justify any ruling , but a really good referee uses his judgement in his interpretation , because ,as we all know , in many situations there is more than one way of...

In reality though , are they the next 2 teams in "financial soundness "?

2 reasonably good games this weekend , particularly the Reds game , played by both teams with plenty of intensity. Good to see many of last years wounded back on the paddock. On the negative side , I think the referees need to rethink their use of the yellow card , particularly as they were...

Yes , that's all very well , but which clubs are the 2012 rep players going to ?

One of the other consequences , I imagine , would be the effect it would have on the Sydney University club ,in particular , who , presumably , would lose a number of it's fringe players to other clubs , while other clubs would mostly lose players to sub district football , other codes , or...

Well I guess it may depend on which club you are associated with. Players who leave a club usually go to a second club which is higher up the table . Obviously this results in the clubs lower down the table , frequently losing their better players to the clubs above them , & then struggling...

Shute Shield 2013 ?

Thanks Andrew, good post.

That's an interesting observation Andrew. Certainly coaching a football team of any code is a thankless task for most , & one which I wouldn't undertake . But how does Stonecutters hypothesis relate to you as West Harbour's coach in 2011, i.e did the Board tell you they felt you lacked...

My post above was in response to Glen Christini's #126 , when he said Parramatta had signed a West Harbour first grader. I would think that on seeing this , most interested readers here would be pondering which of the West Harbour first grade team he was referring to. Certainly if a bloke tells...

It may well be , & let's hope he progresses there, he's a nice bloke.

My point is he is not a regular player in Wests first grade side, playing mostly second & also some third grade games. When you said you have a "first grade " player from Wests one assumed logically ,you meant you had someone who usually plays first grade there.There are a number of players...