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You miss completely what I mean about the integrity of the system. Selected players have been able to command top ups and peak deals and do whatever they want including getting special dispensations to go overseas and come straight back on more big deals whenever they want to. They have...

Its a debate about the depth of the game. Do we need two 7s in Australia who are Wallaby level or with 5 teams at least 3 or 4 to ensure real competition for spots and genuinely competitive Super sides. Add McMahon into the mix and you have four genuinely good 7s with Alcock and a couple of...

@ T4 - no idea, but where there is a will there is a way. Just floating an idea which I see this morning mainstream Journos have also thought about. I leave that up to some of the very experienced management types about the mechanics of how such a deal could work, but surely even with such...

^^^^ I think you grossly under rate Deegan and Mason, both are young and need consistent game time to develop. Let them play Shute Shield and really develop as they are without expecting them to make the jump to Pro rugby too young. Kellaway is a very good player and one of the better 15...

I did say appear...;)

I get you, I understand the emotion and even have some sympathy for it. I do remember my following of League in the 70's and 80's ended completely with the removal of Newtown Club from the premiership. That said I was never a hard core fan of the game, I followed Newtown because my Dad's mates...

^^^^^^ and as we have been saying it for many years. This current crisis is just the end game of the systems and lack thereof that the Management and Board have allowed up to this point. This is a crisis of their making, not one of externalities.

No it isn't really, if it was going to be for the long term good of the game I'd support the removal of the Tahs, in fact if you had read even the last page you would have seen that my preferred option is the removal of all Australian sides. Daz's opinion is equivalent of a scorned partner...

WOW. Just WOW. Daz you have achieved something I didn't think possible. You have made me appear to be a moderate, reasonable and sane person.

So DAZ you aren't really a fan of the game, just of your side. Please refer to Post 6083 about some people happy to burn down the house. That's fine, I do like a fire as I said, just don't be upset when the rest of us are trying to keep the damage to a minimum while pushing the executive and...

"Drain the Swamp" :D Totally valid worries/questions and ones we will know the answer to this year as there is no doubt in my mind at all that everyone currently in place are in an untenable position given what has transpired. Maybe some masochist who loves a challenge will be up for it. It...

Brexit and Trump effect - a tipping point is reached and some people are quite happy to just see a fire burn down the perceived source of their angst with no discrimination. I am a bit more discerning, I like a good fire as much as the next anarchist, but prefer to focus that fire and put...

Hence why I was suggesting an idea that just might sneek through and allow the ARU to survive as an organisation, but there can be no doubt that every member of the board and the executive are toast. Just this situation is enough to make that outcome essential. You know that my preferred...

Well tell me a solution, a real and viable one that may end with the ARU in more or less one piece. No argument the solution does suck. It is shit to even consider the death of the most successful brand in Professional provincial rugby in this country. Thank the ARU. Just tell me another...

We are just keeping the suspense going until Coxy bursts out the chest of the ARU.

That really addresses the points. I did not attack the Brumbies right to be there. Ok I had a sly dig at the lack of integrity in their management, but again that is more to do with the ARU than them and the lack of leadership in that body. You tell me a way forward then. You want to cut or...

So if SANZAAR now holds firm to the bargain that the ARU agreed to (which they have already taken to the broadcasters so I don't see how they can not do so) the ARU has very little choice. 1) The Force and the Rebels have contracts that pretty much guarantee their place and they may well...

Daz that is the sort of mentality that has got the code into the position it is in. I am a Tahs supporter yes, but I have also been hyper critical of them and the management for years and while I support the Tahs against all comers I hold a strong interest in all the Australian sides. If its...

From the Constitution:- So no matter what the outcome even suing the individuals could well just bankrupt the ARU. In which case Section 13 Winding Up becomes important not that there will be any Surplus left to distribute.

No I do not. The big end of town did, with more money going t5o more admin and another couple of teams. What happened below that and have the pathways been maintained and built upon. This thread is full of evidence to indicate that less schools are playing etc.