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  1. stoff

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I believe playing the man is against the rules here. The article says the other four clubs are allocated $1.7m for five years. 5 times 1.7 is 8.5. As it states the other four clubs it is safe to assume that the Rebels don't get this. They get their $6m instead. There is the maths and the...
  2. stoff

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Glad you saved me the effort of searching for an article that confirms what I have been saying. That article confirms the $8.5m for the other franchises. I have no idea how you managed to double the other $6m. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  3. stoff

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    My original posts were designed to give some context to posters who talked about the Rebels being funded $6m for five years without recognising the other franchises were being funded significantly more. As you point out I recognise the challenges for the Rebels in the near and longer term. The...
  4. stoff

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Over the five years of the current TV deal the Rebs get $6m, all other franchises $8.5m. The Rebels got a higher amount year 1 of $2.6m so there is $3.4m to come. I have explained this a few times now. Look back around post 1100 and I go into detail. For clarity not all franchises receive...
  5. stoff

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    The $5.1m is the distribution of $1.7m per year all the other franchises receive. It has been fairly widely reported. The Rebels made a small loss last year. The challenge this year will be to cover the drop in ARU revenue this year. The historical losses are important, but also contain setup...
  6. stoff

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Yes. Super Rugby teams other than the Rebels get $1.7m per year distribution. Rebels have a further $3.4m to come over the next three years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  7. stoff

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    It will cost less to keep the Rebels.$3.4m over the remain 3 years, against $5.1m for the Force. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  8. stoff

    Rebels 2017

    Probably a bit of a different perspective when daddy has always just given you whatever you want. ;) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  9. stoff

    Rebels 2017

    It would actually be a really good chance to follow the lead of the AFL who seem to know something about expansion, and just bolster the Rebels, try and gift us a season or two around the top of the conference, and really build a strong foundation in Melbourne, knowing once that happens the ARU...
  10. stoff

    Rebels 2017

    I have found the major sponsor thing interesting. Whilst I'm sure Imperium would prefer to have one, it is really only a function of pricing. Stick Fuso on the front of the jersey and no one sees a problem. It's one of those things we'll never know, but what do we bring through our platinum...
  11. stoff

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I had that down in the $2.5m saving. ARU funds the other provinces $8.5m over the same period. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  12. stoff

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Let's put down some facts around special assistance received by the Rebels. 2013 - $5.5m loan, since written off. 2014 - $3.3m loan, since written off. 2015 - increased support to Rebels of $1.6m Imperium takeover June 2015 to 2021. $2.5m less than the other franchises. Net difference $7.9m...
  13. stoff

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    . How much was spent on the initial setup under private equity - probably not much. How much have the Rebels actually received that is over and above other franchises by rights distribution? Private or ARU owned, clubs around the world get a share of the Tv money. Do you have hard figures or are...
  14. stoff

    Round 4: Rebels v Chiefs, Fri 17th March @7:45pm - AAMI Park Melbourne

    The Rebels players look filthy too which gives further hope Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  15. stoff

    Round 4: Rebels v Chiefs, Fri 17th March @7:45pm - AAMI Park Melbourne

    12 months ago I would have been pissed about that result. Now just relieved, but hopeful. With a full list I think we would have pinched that. Bring on the tahs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  16. stoff

    Round 4: Rebels v Chiefs, Fri 17th March @7:45pm - AAMI Park Melbourne

    Well we survived the first 10, now just got to worry about that backend 70 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  17. stoff

    Not quite a global season but progress nonetheless.

    Won't that clash with the later club finals in Sydney? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  18. stoff

    Rebels 2017

    It shouldn't be any surprise to people outside Vic. You look at the guys we put out prior to having a Super Rugby side. Ewen McKenzie, Andrew Heath, Tamati Horua, Digby Ioane, Christian Lealifano, and so on. The talent pool has always been here. Now there is a talent pathway. Sent from my iPhone using...
  19. stoff

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I don't get this. Why would anyone invest capital in something without a guarantee that it wouldn't continue to exist. This is just a business deal, not some quasi JV whatever. Also do you have figures on the Rebels distributions moving forwards over the other franchises. My understanding is...
  20. stoff

    Round 4: Rebels v Chiefs, Fri 17th March @7:45pm - AAMI Park Melbourne

    Why did TT sign Volavola if he can't get a start over JGB after the performances he has put in. If the kid has the upside TT sees he is going to be ruined forever after this week. You can't just keep feeding young players to the wolves and expect them to turn it around. This sort of crap...
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