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  1. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I'd be happy with the 3 * 6 team conferences model for now but I really think longer term the ARU have to fight for a tournament or regular season conference that's entirely in our time zone. If NZ isn't going to play ball with a Trans-Tasman comp then let them play in a ridiculous NZ/SA...
  2. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    It's not the first round of discussion. They met in November to work this out, couldn't reach an agreement so pushed it back until now. Presumably the various options have been known for a while and they've been in communication since then too.
  3. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    So no resolution. What a shock. http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u=d9d9194c0d949218400c70b7f&id=3088261394 The SANZAAR Executive Committee (Exco) met in London on Friday 10 March to assess the economic and sporting environment under which its tournaments (Super Rugby and The Rugby...
  4. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    So still no news from this meeting. It's getting pretty late in London.
  5. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    My point was just that if a NZ team was interested in signing Ben Volavola then there'd be dozens of Australian players good enough to get a gig over there if we opened up the player market to some extent between Australia and NZ.
  6. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Assuming the format was home and away within your conference and 3 matches against the other 2 conferences, South African teams would play 3 matches overseas in 2 or 3 of Australia, Japan, NZ or Argentina. The Australian and Kiwi teams would play an away game against the international team in...
  7. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Ben Volavola getting a contract with the Crusaders, despite being ineligible for the All Blacks, shows it's possible.
  8. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    4 or 5 players per team would be just 20-25 players in total and would make a difference. Open it up both ways, 20-25 Australian eligible players in NZ and 20-25 All Blacks eligible players in Australia. Wouldn't be a magic bullet, but doing something like this doesn't mean you can't also...
  9. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    My speculation would be that as long as they're still eligible for NZ and not defecting to Australia that it wouldn't matter to most people. This could be different among different generations of fans, but my feeling is that most people that have grown up with the internet, and thus in a very...
  10. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    It wouldn't necessarily have to be core All Blacks that were allowed to play for Australian clubs (though I think it would be good for that sort of flexibility), it could just be guys on the fringes of selection. And I believe Super Rugby players in Australia do make more money than those in NZ...
  11. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    When I suggested this it was more in the context of a Trans-Tasman league. There's a simple problem here. NZ produces the best players and particularly the most depth, while Australia has the biggest commercial markets and potential for growth. There should be some compromise here for...
  12. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I made the same suggestion a few days ago in another thread and people just say it'll never happen because the NZRU would have to change their current model, which has been so successful, and give up some control over some of their players. That seems a pretty small compromise to me...
  13. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I think if they go with 3 conferences of 6 it'd make a lot more sense to go with 16 matches per team (3 matches against both other conferences). Would make it easier for each team to have 8 home games per season too (as they did in Super 15).
  14. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I think it would depend on getting the right partners on board. But there are pockets of North America where rugby has a footprint. Places like the Bay area, Sacramento, Denver, Utah, Houston (where the US Eagles consistently get pretty good crowds). No less of a footprint than rugby had in...
  15. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    You're confusing Pro Rugby with the mostly Celtic Pro 12. The latter is looking to set up a couple of teams in North America.
  16. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I think the ARU and SANZAAR will be underestimating the loss of goodwill they're going to receive here if they announce plans to cut an Australian team. They'll lose thousands of fans from the team that's cut and piss off many others. There'll be sniping in the media, all sorts of problems. And...
  17. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Do you think New Zealand rugby fans would be happy to play the bulk of their season in a competition that is on in the middle of the night half the time? Personally I doubt it. It'd be unsustainable. And you're talking as if the Wallabies would no longer exist. Most of the revenue the ARU...
  18. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Well I don't think there's ever been a cross-continental league like Super Rugby before so I assume it hasn't happened yet. But if it's inevitable that we won't be able to keep top players in Australia in the longer term by continuing to compromise our interests for those of NZ and South Africa...
  19. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I wasn't talking about a Trans-Tasman league though, which I agree is the best option. I was referring to the status quo (or similar, most likely with the loss of a team or two) vs a primarily domestic competition. If the former is just an ultimately doomed struggle to keep as many top players...
  20. Omar Comin'

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Most of our top players wouldn't stay in Australia. We'd let them leave and have them back for Wallabies games. But do you see this being any different in say 10 years time if we continue with the status quo? How do we stop the widening of the wage gap between Europe and here? Because if we...
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