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Yeah but Horan isn't particularly big brained...

No one really thought that they would.

False dichotomy IMO. I wonder if he was told he wouldn't be selected for the next Wallabies squad.

Dude will barely get a game I reckon. You absolutely cannot get away with being a poor out of hand kicker as a half in league. Guys like Cherry-Evans and Cleary can put a bomb in the same spot 999/1000.

Canberra you mean?

So I guess we are going for the Chiefs here.

BPA has been the best performing hooker in the last 5 years IMO. Folau Fainga'a also more of a loss than I thought he'd be.

Oh of course. Maybe initially a Swain/LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) partnership? Probably the most experienced options and theoretically good, though questions over LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto)'s form and fitness. Still think Swinton is the perfect 6 in terms of marrying lineout ability, physicality and workrate.

Are we not selecting Swain because he's off? I think he's probably in our best two at the moment.

How did we emulate NRL?

Soccer is equally predictable over a season but I think there is greater chance for individual upsets.

Begone foul beast.

Just sounds like clinging desperately to an already failed model in the hopes of retaining what dregs we have left.

I guess I think a professional domestic competition would have greater capacity for growth of the supporter base.

I don't think anyone is suggesting a return to amateurism?

They have as long as NZRU and WR (World Rugby) are willing to pay for, really.

I mean - there is a thousand page thread which must not be named with extensive discussion covering these questions.

Setting aside the viability arguments - Super Rugby has more or less failed now. What's to lose in trying something new?

^^^ Super Rugby has the exact same issue with funding. It doesn't bring in enough money and is run off the back of the Wallabies. I suggest that a domestic comp has greater potential to eventually be self sustaining. It ticks more of the boxes that seem to keep fans in Aus happy. More domestic...

I dunno, the ITM cup with bigger salary caps and all their All Blacks playing would probably be pretty good. It's basically what I would want for Aus.