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Harv... If I am not mistaken, was there not a brief-if-informal tie-in around 1978 between the Strathfield 1st XV and the Magpies - at least in terms of the 1st XV using Wests Physio, and perhaps trainer? I definitely remember some activity around the old Lidcombe Oval... They had a pretty damn...

It's a fair point, but like most things in Life, it is rarely so Cut & Dried... Last time it came up, (I don't think many seriously believed it would happen), but nevertheless, there was still little vocal opposition... Some maintained they would be better off with SA than Italy... I have...

In '77 or '78 Waverley had a serious NSW Sprinter - or Hurdler, on their Wing - and I think in '80 they probably had their strongest side ever - if I am not getting the years wrong - had a forward who was a big name at the time but never really kicked-on... may have made it to NSW Tahs...

WCR: In the short term, I believe You are right - but there is nothing sacred about the 6 Nations, and as soon as the $$ dictated an expansion, it would expand... As things stand at the moment, I reckon even Qatar could get into the 6 Nations if they went about it the right way... It is hard...

On that basis, we would need to find a name that has alot of 'e's and '6's in it.... It might be another reason why the Super Rugby won't expand: NZ could never market a 'Super Sux Teen' competition...

You might also recall he almost blew it - at one stage having a BSkyB deal on the table, and No Players with which to honour it - Luyt received a Solid Reaming in Joh'burg from Sam Chisholm, for fecking it up... Luyt huffed and puffed about 'no Springbok' player would ever be involved" - only...

Ahhhh.... the good old days... South Africa in the 1970s... Yep - that's the way. Didn't you also invent the World Cup?... and the Internet?... and Equal Rights, and, and...

Although its a bit difficult to read, I would not doubt any of its content... That does not however mean that anyone in New Zealand or Australia will sit up til the early hours of the morning to watch the Bulls play the Sharks... They just don't... These games have little following outside...

Be under no illusions PaarlBok - I am very familair with SA Rugby Culture... it is generally a "We get our own way. or else we take our Bat and Go Home".. type of culture... Do not presume to take the high road here.

I would say Jay-C however, that I think the idea of having an 'EXILES' team playing in a Super XV competition is a fascinating idea - a Team which has a single base - but is made up largely of Foreign Players could be a really interesting option... Imagine a Club made up largely of Japanese...

Haha - You're a funny guy.

Overall I agree with you WCR - except that it is The Championship, that the Boks are primarily trying to find their way out of... They have been told for now that they will never be admitted to the 6 Nations - but never is a long time - and I'm aware that efforts are ongoing to make this a...

YOU HAVE ENTIRELY MISSED THE POINT. 1. Most Australians knew that we would struggle to field a 5th competitive Super Rugby Team at the time. The ARU however, knew that it needed a 5th team in the long run in order to stand any chance of keeping the Wallabies competitive over the next 10 -15...

what wonder years?

There IS no problem with it - the Rebels in particular, have extremely generous allowances for importing players - you can be assurted this will be exteneded to the Force in some form, before Year's end... The fact is, its a 'fairly' open market - they could go anywhere they like to obtain...

Whilst you are probably right, it doesn't change anything... SAs attempts to get out of the competition are well documented - and have not been abandoned. There was actually some very real speculation as to whether they would sign onto the last deal... At the moment, the most likely fate of...

Perhaps they ought to have gone back to the first game in 1875, and called themselves the Western Sydney Lunatic Asylum?

Might be true, the Wanderers back then were probably a bunch of Poms... - but makes it only mildly less irrelevant in my book - Doesn't matter, because I am NOT suggesting that they change their name....

Boet you can put up as many stats as you like. Fact is SA have a rugby culture all over SA. . No question they have a Rugby Culture - but as shown, also no question that they struggle to put together more than 3 or 4 strong teams. As I menitioned, they are known in NZ and Australia for NOT...

Stands... One can DISCUSS anything one likes... The Offside Rule, Quantum Physics, Gay Marriage - anything one likes - but unless one has infinite time on one's hands, there ought to be some point to it... I would posit that there is probably only 1 or 2% of Waratahs supporters who even...