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16 teams? With the Japan and Argies still in the mix doesn't make much sense to me o_O .. how does that work ... Its not be more detailed fix the bigger issues

Looks like Wayne Smith pulled his finger out and wrote a useful article... When the professional era began, and SANZAR was formed, the rugby world watched in envy as the three nations that had dominated the World Cup to that point played each other each week. Initially, NZ demanded six of the...

Is that hook up with all the teams BJ...

Sorry didnt have that info but yes not all 10s kick, Mortlock at the Brumbies kicked mostly not Giteau. Quade kicked mostly for the Reds... But Foley kicker and Carter kicked day and night..

Apologies stats fixed now... copy paste oops

Very true, No statement about from the ARU intend to do prior to the London meeting... Just slipped onto the plane...

New markets and crowds :confused: at the expense of established loyal crowds

FORM SANZAAR WEB PAGE TO EXPLAIN THE NEW 18 Team COMP. The Kings from South Africa returned to the fray, along with new teams: the Jaguares from Argentina; and the Sunwolves from Japan, taking Super Rugby to new places, new markets and new crowds.

I think SARU just want us to play over there on the weekends and not come here any more,,, :oops:

Absolutely.. as I recall White had a few poor kicking games and got put aside... He was there as an option if Leoliifano became the Wallabies flyhalf but Cheks stuck with what he knew, Foley... All apart of the complete 2 two team theory... But cant win battles without cannons...

thats great news, what about Bulter? any progress

How many minutes do you think that was? Example Horne 33 tests 20 points since 2010. But to be fair this isn't about Horne he is an honest hard player just lucky he was Tah under Cheika who became the national coach... My point is many posts here are addressing we can't run 5 super teams but...

I'm worried we'll see Horne as Cheika's wingman again... heavens... I think there is excellent talent coming through a few teams now I hope they get a shot to develop further...

No my point is he was spotted early as talent but didn't get the opportunity to develop, he isn't alone... ACC played in more losing Wallabies teams than any other player I think... But at least ACC could was a winger... but Horne??

Can't see the money... We just lost more opportunities to build rugby in our country... And what is the cost of that loss... Now we loose a team to dig out the SARU... Pitiful leadership... should step aside if they cant find a better away for the ARU super teams.

Not sure ... Tomane had injuries like all players but over 5 seasons with teh Brumbies 68 caps 125 points he got only 17 Wallabies caps with 25 points scored. As I remember Cheika favoured was playing ACC and Horne on the wings...

Waynes Smiths article is sketchy opinion journalism with no solution... Pulver & Robinson don't have to apologies for recent AUS super rugby at the SANZAAR as Wayne Smith suggested... Really Wayne !!! The issues is Super 18 venture is a failed platform and not AUSTRALIAN SUPER RUGBY, we...

Scutter the SARU Super 18 rugby flag ship asap... Float a new super model... Question is will Pulver stand up for AUS rugby or is he already in his own IRB life raft... SO what did we learn: Too many stakeholders makes it too difficult to deliver to your own teams and rugby fans...

Production costs for the broadcaster is larger... Costs for a NZ + ARU Trans Tasman comp could work well with more accessible local broadcast times. Let's support Australian rugby, Australia can't be asked by SANZAAR or the IRB to sacrifice local teams to support failed business venture. If we...

Which senior players ? are there any left in the Tahs