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  1. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    Don't say/post that or you lose $4M..... there's some denial right there. If you can't see that you are wilfully blind or abjectly stupid.
  2. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    This thread is a great example of why I gave up on social media pretty much, most here including the mods speak (post) and will only agree with the echos. I have personally never rated Folau as highly as some as a Fullback, a player unparalleled at taking the ball in the, possible the best...
  3. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    Honestly if the sponsor in question was to pull out over the posts they stood to lose a lot. Not in terms of exposure that they get in Australia from Rugby, we are a dwindling sport professionally, watched by a handful at the field and a few more on the box. RA would not have done it but I...
  4. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    I may have posted before, I can't remember, the main thing I object to is the absolute ineptness with which RA has handled this whole matter. 1) After the Beale farce and the multiple payouts required to sweep that under the carpet, RA did not make moves to renegotiate the CBA. We all know...
  5. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    I cannot agree. The highlighted part is just patently false. Nobody has been vilified. It is pure and simple a wilful misinterpretation of what has been said and what is extremely well known doctrine. Nobody has been vilified. That would be targeting a person or group specifically with some...
  6. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    The beauty of the real debate. I believe you are completely wrong here in your distinction. The last sentence in the first paragraph is actually the truth. The basic freedom of speech and thought brings with it the right to make an ass and fool of one's self and be wrong and as a consequence...
  7. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    That is high art mate, both the music and the album cover.
  8. Gnostic

    Waratahs 2020

    Coach? We know it won't be Cron :mad:
  9. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    Great post mate. Spot on. Much research and many speakers are talking about this now, Haidt was in the van of this somewhat radical thought. I would recommend his book "The Righteous Mind - Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion"
  10. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    The Greek version itself is only a translation itself from the Aramaic and Coptic texts. A quick review of the later history of the Eastern Roman Empire will give some significant insight to those interested. Consider especially the role Constantine played and his relationship to the Church/es...
  11. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    Whilst I agree with you to a certain extent Ulrich, I will also say that very few of these blokes would hold any significant social media presence if it were not for their ability to play footy coupled to their exposure in the pro set up. To be frank most of them are blokes with little else to...
  12. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    A report during the week gave the opinion of a Law Professor at one of the Universities that said the potential is there for this saga to go unresolved for years and Folau may well end up seeing out his contract being paid not to play. So lets add up the costs of his contract, the damage this...
  13. Gnostic

    R11: Waratahs vs Sharks @ Western Sydney Stadium - Saturday 27 April 2019

    There is nothing wrong with the idea of a flat line attack, but it has to be executed with fast (repeat FAST) ruck ball. The static ball that Australian sides play with makes the tactic impossible and the receiver a tackle bag. It is why the Tahs make the ad-line 60% of the time, even when...
  14. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    They provide employment opportunities for otherwise unemployable Humanities graduates.
  15. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    And just how have they sent this message? Will RA determine what parts of the Faith's gospel can be quoted and what not? Will RA determine which sects can speak and which not, will one have to adhere to an approved narrative? This is a complete minefield, and one that RA could have avoided...
  16. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    Haskell - one of the dirtiest players in modern rugby having an opinion. Good on him for having an opinion, the fact I think he is a thug who should have been banned from the game for significant periods for various acts of thuggery on the field and he is an absolute hypocrite doesn't remove...
  17. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    This point is the one I fear that is being lost. The point in your second paragraph tends to control any debate and all dissenting opinion tends to get drowned out and/or moderator-ed out in mainstream social media. My point of the mob rule is apt when you consider the crowd reaction to Billy...
  18. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    Not really, my sarcasm doesn't really come through, I was attempting to both express my personal absolute disdain for Joyce and the great irony that he, as one about whom this so called "hate speech" targeted, is defending him. No fallacy created and not really a personal attack as he is by...
  19. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    LOL. The Beetrooter expressing his support for IF, doesn't he know that he is assured of his place in Hell now. He is an both an Adulterator and by dint of his politician ways and unabashed Liar.
  20. Gnostic

    The Israel Folau saga

    What you have been saying is we cannot. And what RA has said is we cannot publicly express such differences. The fundamental fact of free speech and freedom is that people are then free to say uncomfortable things. But to counter that I am free to call them F%$#wits and nut jobs. The real...
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