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I have repeatedly explained the issue with dates, what was agreed with SANZAAR, etc. You obviously chose to not read the thread or don't care about the facts. SA agreed, SANZAAR knew the issues. Scroll up. As for not wanting to get smashed? We did plenty of that before Rassie. We don't really...

At the time when the dates were known it was not known 1. When squads were able to convene to train (which was weeks later) 2. When contact training would be allowed (even later) 3. If and when the government would allow them to go (announced on 10 October). SANZAAR knew about this and SA...

Absolutely, unequivocally not.

So you argue that none of the reasons given is any grounds for concern. I really winder how you would think about it had the shoe been on the other foot..

A very good, rational argument why South Africa should not come: https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/10/15/should-south-africa-participate-in-the-rugby-championship/

Oh dear.

Seriously though you can understand them doing Bledisloe on a Sunday at lunch as to not clash with AFL and NRL finals. It was a smart move. It was great for the local pubs who were full. They would be full in the evenings anyway, so this helped them pick up their business as it was lunch and...

Some might but most won't. Cashed up egos will keep bailing them out.

The Argies who are here now cannot be Euro players. Or do you have info to the contrary? I don't think that's possible. All I can find is this that suggests players like Sanchez will join them later...

Ok I am sticking to facts from here. This thread is now at risk of descending into a total shit show. Reset shall we? I added Trevor Nyakane. People who I would love to see coming over from Europe: Marcel Coetzee 8/6 Du Preez Twin Lock / 6 Du Preez Twin 8 Elstad Lock / 6 De Allende Kolbe...

The International window start on 24 October. No club will release them before this date and as usual the French are making noises of refusing. Add travel + two weeks quarantine. At best they join the group by 11/12 November, the week after the first test. Another week to train with the squad to...

And all that money was subsequently pissed down the drain by the ARU, No, it did not go well at all.

Possible Squad with NO overseas players and my very limited knowledge these days: Utility backs: Curwin Bosch, Damian Willemse (both cover 10, 15) 15. Gelant Wingers: Specman, Skosan, Penxe, ONE MORE Midfielders: Steyn, Am, Similane, TWO MORE 10, Jantjes, Wolhuter 9. Jantjes, Papier, Nohamba...

OK lets assume they come over. "Most obvious" team they can pick right now from players in SA, provided they are all fit: Curwin Bosch / Gelant / Damian Willemse Rosko Specman, Am, Frans Steyn, Nkosi Elton Jantjes Little Jantjes Duane Verm. Kolisi, Arno Botha No idea, No idea Ginger...

To pay the corrupt SA government officials? There is never enough.

Apology not needed. We are on the interweb and people have the right to their views. Thank you. They are trying to make it work, as we speak.

but they were fit players. after a full season. f*ck, guys. seriously.

You sound like you strongly dislike anything South African. If there was an award for "poster who is the shining light of ignoring facts", you would be the life time winner mate. You still do not understand the history of this decision, or are you just going to remain petulant? THEY ONLY...

Does Rieko desserve to be dropped for the sloppy finish? He is still electric and was the best 13 on display in Super Rugby A. He will never do that again. I think they should persist. Caleb to 14 and Jordie to bench.