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Once the ATO is after you in this country you are toast.

Could argue that at that point they were knackered and out of ideas The scramble got them the whole game except for the one slip-up where Talea broke free. Underatand the decision 100% and he nails those regularly.

All fair and well but without central contracting and a centrally run high-performance system that starts with the kids when they are 13/14 forget it. Oh, and you might want to move a few other obstacles out of the way...

So: Same Front Row Barret, Fifita? Cane? <Need a 6, Blackadder?> <Need an 8> Roigard Dmac Telea Jordie Rieko <Lots of Wing Options> Jordan All to play for in Super rugby next year.

Found this on Rugbypass. Whoah! Robertson won’t be able to call on Dane Coles, who is retiring, or superstars Brodie Retallick, Aaron Smith, and Sam Whitelock, who made France 2023 their All Blacks swansong. Another group of senior players are unlikely to be seen again, at least in the short...

Thanks KiwiM What an epic fight it was. Still dumfounded how we hung on. Looking forward to what Razor will change. So who is he losing due to retirement or sabatical? Mouanga, Whitelock, Retalick, Ardie, who else? Will have a challenge between building and winning. If anyone can do it, it's him.

Over it. No matter who is doing it. Yes and Saffas and Aussies probably the worst. These guys have an IMPOSSIBLE job. And now you have the bunker getting into the act at every turn. Guaranteed after every game one side will be pissed. Simple law of averages. Get used to it. Not changing any...

It's pretty obvious. But World Rugby will let this ride all week for wider mainstream media headlines. Like a real bunch of wye kants / wit kante.

Every incident they are talking about is valid. I don't deny that. But refs make calls. Sometimes wrong. The only variable is who ends up on the wrong side. the more impactful wrong call was Kwagga not supporting his weight but ref was not able to see that and we can't have the TMO call these...

It has been scrutinised to death and was within rules. Not saying it was right but the rules were not broken.

Mate. The Saffa trolls just cancel out the overconfident and arrogant Irish fans per getting beaten. It was insufferable. Especially all the "experts" I feel for your disappointment, but every country has their idiot trolls online. Saffas by 3 in an ugly shitfest. Sorry

Which is exactly why the Irish beat us. Their speed.

2011 we slaughtered them 36-0 in the early rounds. They were a disallowed try away rom beating us in the final. Need to be on the money.

...and Caanan Moodie who is a freak. Very lucky. We had years of struggling for centre depth.

Talk of rotation at prop, centres and 8. Faf to start. He gets under England's skin. I doubt they chnage the centres at all. I suspect: Ox, Bongi, Nyakane / Koch (but would play Nyakane against Genge - he destroyed him last year) Etzebeth, Mostert PsDT, Wiese, Kolisi Faf, Libbok de allende...

There is no way we could underestimate the English. Have to be 100% switched on.

That is hardly terrible. Few teams have your kind of backup. Against Italy this won't be an issue at all. I expect the Italians to get well and properly stuffed. Frizell and Retalic back is absolutely massive. Changes to complexion of the pack completely. Also starting Codie is way better...

This. It is off the scale good.

True. He gave the halfback no time but the halfback had time to get it out before and hesitated. Had he produced it quicker, would we have scored for sure? No. We lost this game primarily bc of slowness / inaccuracy at the breakdown, not the ref. Points would have helped of they were kicked...