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I think this is a very good observation/point. I have long said here: (1) the only way the bad culture, competence deficiencies and governance system within RA will be fixed is by its de facto or actual bankruptcy and (2) the parties that will have the motivation to save Aust rugby and will save...

Oh, well, let's not be too pedantic. Whatever you call it, it was one of RA's/RC's most crucial priorities once the latter commenced her role in early 2018 - attempt to prepare a Wallaby team to win a RWC, or at least get very near to doing so. They certainly needed what is normally referred to...

The grand strategy of ‘over sighting’ M Cheika seems to have been a disaster all round, as one insider reveals with remarkable frankness: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/always-going-to-end-in-tears-o-connor-says-cheika-s-wallabies-were-doomed-to-fail-at-world-cup-20200616-p55329.html

QH, I am not sure CVC CP 'control' the Prem Comp in England as such - see the board constit as you have listed - but the RFU as you say is effectively out of it (and possibly glad to be, club infighting in the UK is notoriously bad) and it has its own CEO etc and governing body. Whatever, I...

Fair enough, but the 'level of rugby close to approx where we are now/Force level' is not attracting fans or viewers today in adequate nos, on the contrary. IMO, that will not be materially changed just by dint of the fact that, suddenly, we are always playing each other in an all-Aust domestic...

Well, I would say that many super HNWs have in part got that way through not losing buckets of money in ancillary ventures despite what they already had, but anyway. To me the bigger assumption within your post is that RA would have the balls, requisite fleetness of foot, and adequate...

Well, in fairness, sometimes the on-exit returns of PE into sports have been truly excellent. CVC into and out of F1 a good example. But noting to add to your point: the good returns for PE or personal HNWs into sports have almost all come from investments in very major, already-rich comps and...

The type of model you suggest here of a huge infusion of 'highly patient' new cash funds - irrespective of whether it's Twiggy or PE or XXX or GRR etc - is the only way to attain a viable 6-8 teams Aust pure domestic rugby pro comp. There is no other realistic and credible way and the multiyear...

Not with a low-relative-investment/low-money-flow pro-am only model it doesn't. All the globally successful sporting comps/codes in the world today are, at the many upper levels, pro-pro.

Could be 4 if the Force remains viably funded by Twiggy, as is likely. As I have said, IMO the pro comp for Aust teams will be TT with prob a Fijian or PI team included (subsidised likely by WR (World Rugby) as it should given the milking of these nations). Any maybe some form of play-offs with elite...

Just: yes. And prey tell where is there a single analogue _anywhere_ in any global pro sport of this delineation of outcomes: - Phase 1: a global sport retrenches in a key market XX right back to largely pro-am (mostly am) local only domestic comp. The rest of the world in that sports goes...

And Aust rugby hasn't and doesn't? Come on now. I have argued for years here, and still do - the systemic collapse of Aust rugby is not in NZRU's interest and they know it. Just playing themselves and borderline-viable Fiji and PI teams over time will degrade NZ rugby and its strategic...

Reply: (1) I am driven in all my thinking by facts and hard, observable outcomes. I love rugby as much as the next person here, but I am not here to provide uplifting sentimental and cheerleading-type motivation re Team A or 'Australian rugby', others here wish to and do perform that role and...

Forget about Wayne Smith and the others: this 'Aust Super teams merger' speculation is arising from the laws of economics and what Aust pro comp sizing 2021+ is going to be financially even vaguely viable. Namely: Logic Path A - 2021 pro rugby media income (if any comes) will be...

Well, it also needs to be said: there many elements of analysis and facts clusters that are advanced herein that aren’t speculation and that form the basis of our concerns; the speculations are what to best do about them.

I tend to agree mate. 6 the absolute min and I think in reality you are closer to the mark. And then we are back to manufacturing synthetic teams to make the numbers and, as I have said before, our history on that front makes such a ploy super high risk esp when the teams we do have today are...

Media income is CRITICAL for RA in 2021+ (please someone tell me why that is wrong). We are bankrupt without it. PE will not invest in any pro sports comp without a viable media $s component of some kind (be it traditional TV or streaming or both). If a domestic only Aust pro comp was viable...

Super Rugby: Fox Sports 22 February 2020 (from our GAGR Crowd Nos thread): Chiefs v Brumbies 56,000 Reds v Sunwolves 49,000 Rebels v Sharks 39,000 I find it interesting to compare the above with Friday's (5pm AEST) Super Rugby NZ: Highlanders vs Chiefs 42,000 Whilst recognising there will of...

Indisputably. Same deal as NZ in principle loving playing vs SA teams and their typical strength up front. NZRU knew this was a desirable ingredient to, eg, steeling up NZ teams' forwards play. Coupled with the fact that, deep down, NZRU knows that, with a NZ popn of 4.8m or so, 'totally going...

Not in QLD GPS Schools. I vividly recall how my son's cheering on Churchie's GPS rugby teams competed in the very distance with yells of support for our Basketball teams not too far away, both start in July (pre COVID anyway).