Where to for Super Rugby?

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Rocky Elsom (76)
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dru said:
Clynne and the board have been working toward paper thin plausible deniability for weeks.
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Deniability to whom? Why does anyone think the "truth" will ever come out as to who said / did / planned what? Or that anyone on the board will feel any compunction to explain themselves? I mean, as much as we all like to think we are stakeholders, we're just spectators while this Faustian drama unfolds. The whole thing is surreal, and I don't mean that in the way a reality TV numnut says "surreal".
 
Quick Hands

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David Wilson (68)
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The ARU is a comparatively small operation. $90m-ish in annual revenue is not a big business with large complexities to oversight.

How in such a tight bundle (and with all senior execs in the same building) and with such an important, high profile project as is the restructuring of the Australian Super Rugby enterprise could the CEO not know in considerable and appropriate detail what his COO was doing and communicating?

If he did not in fact know of it and very closely oversight it, he's just as culpable as would be the person under him doing all the doing and saying.
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Judging by their activities of late, I think that the sad truth is that not only don't they know what the person in the same office is doing, they don't even know what they are doing themselves.

The whole place is a rancid, cess pool of nepotism, cronyism and incompetence on a grand scale.

When will this ever end?
 
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David Codey (61)
Quick Hands said:
Judging by their activities of late, I think that the sad truth is that not only don't they know what the person in the same office is doing, they don't even know what they are doing themselves.

The whole place is a rancid, cess pool of nepotism, cronyism and incompetence on a grand scale.

When will this ever end?
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It will only end when the money runs out.
 
lou75

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Ron Walden (29)
and from the SMH: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/r...a-blow-for-embattled-aru-20170504-gvyvkk.html
"Rob Clarke is one of the outstanding sports administrators in the country and has given wonderful service to the game through the ARU, the Brumbies and Melbourne Rebels over the course of a decade," Pulver said. That is utter crap - he was the architect who lost $8 m in the ARC , lost money with the Brumbies - even though they won a premiership, he lost $8.5 m as CEO of Rebels and left them coming last in the ladder, he put forward the proposal to cut an Aussie rugby team and now at least two teams have threatened to sue the ARU if they are cut, and SANZAAR is threatening to sue ARU if they don't cut a team - have I missed anything here Mr Pulver???
 
Brumbieman

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Dick Tooth (41)
My sources tell me that something large may be happening soon. Rhymes with boo and apparently has the numbers to succeed..............
 
todd4

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Ron Walden (29)
Considering the huge shit-fight in this country over losing one team I find it hard to believe that there isn't similar drama going on in South Africa. Are the Cheetahs and Kings really going to go quietly? Are South Africa waiting to see what plays out here first? They must be under similar pressure from SANZAAR to make an official announcement on which teams are to be cut.
 
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David Wilson (68)
lou75 said:
and from the SMH: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/r...a-blow-for-embattled-aru-20170504-gvyvkk.html
"Rob Clarke is one of the outstanding sports administrators in the country and has given wonderful service to the game through the ARU, the Brumbies and Melbourne Rebels over the course of a decade," Pulver said. That is utter crap - he was the architect who lost $8 m in the ARC , lost money with the Brumbies - even though they won a premiership, he lost $8.5 m as CEO of Rebels and left them coming last in the ladder, he put forward the proposal to cut an Aussie rugby team and now at least two teams have threatened to sue the ARU if they are cut, and SANZAAR is threatening to sue ARU if they don't cut a team - have I missed anything here Mr Pulver???
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Sounds like he fits in very well to ARU management.;)
 
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Billy Sheehan (19)
lou75 said:
and from the SMH: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/r...a-blow-for-embattled-aru-20170504-gvyvkk.html
"Rob Clarke is one of the outstanding sports administrators in the country and has given wonderful service to the game through the ARU, the Brumbies and Melbourne Rebels over the course of a decade," Pulver said. That is utter crap - he was the architect who lost $8 m in the ARC , lost money with the Brumbies - even though they won a premiership, he lost $8.5 m as CEO of Rebels and left them coming last in the ladder, he put forward the proposal to cut an Aussie rugby team and now at least two teams have threatened to sue the ARU if they are cut, and SANZAAR is threatening to sue ARU if they don't cut a team - have I missed anything here Mr Pulver???
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Oh please I think I may just have a little something in my throat .
Pulver the spinmeister general at his best again .
Jump off the plank you idiot
 
dru

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Jason Little (69)
todd4 said:
Considering the huge shit-fight in this country over losing one team I find it hard to believe that there isn't similar drama going on in South Africa. Are the Cheetahs and Kings really going to go quietly? Are South Africa waiting to see what plays out here first? They must be under similar pressure from SANZAAR to make an official announcement on which teams are to be cut.
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It's looking possible Todd. Kind of.

SARU is looking to other franchise openings for the cut teams - likely in Europe. Kings are in a situation where that could really work.

Cheetahs are a different issue and it either means amalgamations or becoming a feeder.

At the end of the day, SARU are waaay ahead of ARU with their planning around these changes. Could be all furphy, but at least SARU are testing the waters.
 
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Brumbieman said:
My sources tell me that something large may be happening soon. Rhymes with boo and apparently has the numbers to succeed......
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An EGM or special resolutions require 75% to pass(12 votes), I suspected the ARU were quick to exclude the Brumbies from the chopping block because it bought the ARU a voting block.

Let's say theirs two corners, by my calculation these votes will definetly be against the ARU currently:

RUPA: 1
WA: 2
Rebels: 2

These states will likely be aligned with the ARU, if you have to ask why just examine debtors and balance sheets for the past few years:
NT: 1
SA: 1
Tas: 1

Sideline:
QLD: 3 votes
NSW: 3 Votes
ACT: 2 Votes

One thing is for certain, if there is to be any shakeup, it requires support of both QLD and NSW.
 
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