post-match scrummaging analysis

[notdeadyet]

what sites would you recommend for an in-depth analysis of scrummaging post-match from someone that has actually played frontrow but doesn't have to be an international. most of the smartest imo of rugby and league pundits haven't played internationally or even for their state.
anyone, thanks, mark
was trying to post on 'Rugby Discussion' but apparently i do not have enough privileges

 

[Sully]

what sites would you recommend for an in-depth analysis of scrummaging post-match from someone that has actually played frontrow but doesn't have to be an international. most of the smartest imo of rugby and league pundits haven't played internationally or even for their state.
anyone, thanks, mark
was trying to post on 'Rugby Discussion' but apparently i do not have enough privileges

Hey mate, thanks for bringing up an issue that's left over from years ago. We used to have a suggested thread sub-forum that users with less than 250 posts had to post in for approval before posting in the main forum. It was to stop too many threads from being posted in the main forum. It's been gone for years. I've amended the policy to allow members with 10 posts to post new threads in the forum.

 

[Strewthcobber]

what sites would you recommend for an in-depth analysis of scrummaging post-match from someone that has actually played frontrow but doesn't have to be an international. most of the smartest imo of rugby and league pundits haven't played internationally or even for their state.
anyone, thanks, mark
was trying to post on 'Rugby Discussion' but apparently i do not have enough privileges

There are none (as far as I'm aware)

Does it matter?

What are you actually looking for? A technical explanation of who and who isn't a good scrummager? Or a technical explanation of why one team gets penalised?

 

[Pfitzy]

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[Tazzmania]

If you looking for a good clip on what referees look for I found this Wayne Barnes clip useful:

Collapsing the scrum

 

[Tomikin]

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[Dismal Pillock]

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[Tomikin]

Wayyy too spunky for my paygrade.

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[Dismal Pillock]

Let's face it Tomikin; your 4 is my 8.

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[notdeadyet]

There are none (as far as I'm aware)

Does it matter?

What are you actually looking for? A technical explanation of who and who isn't a good scrummager? Or a technical explanation of why one team gets penalised?

the srummaging is a major reason for me watching union. league died last century and i stopped watching it.
yes i would love a pundit or two to analyse every scrum of a match. cut the place kicks, conversions & penalities, if needs be
yes it does matter for my viewing pleasure
mark

 

[dru]

the srummaging is a major reason for me watching union. league died last century and i stopped watching it.
yes i would love a pundit or two to analyse every scrum of a match. cut the place kicks, conversions & penalities, if needs be
yes it does matter for my viewing pleasure
mark

+1

 

[Strewthcobber]

the srummaging is a major reason for me watching union. league died last century and i stopped watching it.
yes i would love a pundit or two to analyse every scrum of a match. cut the place kicks, conversions & penalities, if needs be
yes it does matter for my viewing pleasure
mark

Fair enough.

By "does it matter?" What I meant was, does it matter "that has actually played frontrow"

I was trying to understand if you want to understand who is dominating who in the scrum, or understand why refs have penalised one side or the other? They are two different things

 

[HogansHeros]

Sounds like an interesting niche for a youtube creator.

 

[Strewthcobber]

Sounds like an interesting niche for a youtube creator.

The big issue will be access to decent footage.

On the weekend the producer gave us almost nothing but overhead shots and then wide angles, and barely replayed a penalty/free kick.

Couldn't see what was happening a lot of the time, other than some of the most egregious feeding of the second row I've ever seenn

 

[Brumby Runner]

the srummaging is a major reason for me watching union. league died last century and i stopped watching it.
yes i would love a pundit or two to analyse every scrum of a match. cut the place kicks, conversions & penalities, if needs be
yes it does matter for my viewing pleasure
mark

Try catching up with Nutta's articles on the front page of this very site. He has being playing prop for the past 100 years and knows more about scrums than any of the 'experts' rolled out on tv.

 

[notdeadyet]

Fair enough.

By "does it matter?" What I meant was, does it matter "that has actually played frontrow"

I was trying to understand if you want to understand who is dominating who in the scrum, or understand why refs have penalised one side or the other? They are two different things

not so much the ref's decisions as what the players are doing and why, the tactics

 

[Dan54]

It amuses me that anyone really believes you have to be an ex front row etc to know scrumming, and even what goes on in front row. I played second row for more years than I really recall now, and I used to laugh at some antics I saw props etc get up to. But also like any job in rugby, it's not as complicated as people can pretend. Also think we tend to forget how bloody important he second row is in a scrum, there is a reason they are called locks, that was their job, to lock scrum, and when required, back up props by pushing on angle as they forced (not always legally) their opponent either in or out, depending if they trying to squeeze or seperate the hooker. Loosies also played a a huge part, but would also in most cases see how props etc worked.
I always laughed when commentators used to come up with quips like 'how does the ref know, he probably never been in front row". Following that reasoning, you would need a ref for every position on field.