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QLD Premier Rugby 2025

qpr_analyst

Bob McCowan (2)
I don't think it's so much that refs are above criticism in general but more which refs your criticism is aimed at.

Your original post was specifically having a crack at lower grades referees and saying how bad it is. Like mate, no shit, reffing those games in general is always going to be tougher and you're always going to have less experienced refs.

You make reference to players, coaches and volunteers (not sure why included?) being held to account - but no one on these forums is really calling for the coach of a 4th grade side to be better.

Querying or questioning ref decisions (within reason) is valid at the top end of town where they get paid big bucks. But I don't think the refs having a crack at 9am in the morning to ref 5th grade need to be called out.

Further to this, the even the "top end of town" in QPR earn a whopping total of $100 for a 1st grade game to cover their pre-match work, the game, a self-review, a review with their referee coach, and responding to any clips from the player coaches post game. It's still mostly for the love of the game.
 
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Punter Pete

Bob McCowan (2)
Further to this, the even the "top end of town" in QPR earn a whopping total of $100 for a 1st grade game to cover their pre-match work, the game, a self-review, a review with their referee coach, and responding to any clips from the player coaches post game. It's still mostly for the love of the game.
Players pay nearly $500 per season and at the top end are required to do the same thing with regards to clips, self review and feedback etc
 

qpr_analyst

Bob McCowan (2)
Players pay nearly $500 per season and at the top end are required to do the same thing with regards to clips, self review and feedback etc
And how often do 3rd grade reserve props get called out that they need to be dropped, or be threatened that clips will be sent to their coach, or have their integrity questioned, or be abused during a game? That's why there's a difference.
 

Pfitzy

Phil Waugh (73)
Hopefully all the players who have a low opinion of refs are ready to pick up a whistle when their playing days are over and help make the game better. :cool:

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JRugby2

Arch Winning (36)
Players pay nearly $500 per season and at the top end are required to do the same thing with regards to clips, self review and feedback etc
I know you're specifically responding to the previous post but I think this is getting away from the point. Fair critique of referees is ok, but there is a way to do it respectfully, with nuance, empathy and good intent. Paying any amount of money doesn't mean you get to act like a flog on the internet (again not targeted at you specifically).

Debate decisions by all means, but having a blanket crack at lower grade referees who supposedly have a god-complex doesn't pass the sniff test, neither does unfounded or ill considered accusations of bias in amateur rugby.
 
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PhilClinton

Mark Ella (57)
Further to this, the even the "top end of town" in QPR earn a whopping total of $100 for a 1st grade game to cover their pre-match work, the game, a self-review, a review with their referee coach, and responding to any clips from the player coaches post game. It's still mostly for the love of the game.

Sorry I thought my post was obvious that by 'top end of town earning big bucks' it meant fully professional refs, not anyone involved in reffing amateur games. whether it be 6th grade or 1st grade.
 

JRugby2

Arch Winning (36)
I would guess that the Tonga game would rule out most of them, though maybe a few who are likely to be surplus to requirements but still touring will play.
 

NCT

Chris McKivat (8)
Turned on Stan for GPS v Easts late in 1st half and was surprised at the score, something like 31-7 to GPS. Came back at the end of the match and Easts now have 50! Amazing turnaround, not sure what happened.
 

PhilClinton

Mark Ella (57)
GPS concede another 50 points at home. Nothing new for season 2025. Pretty sad watching as a supporter that we dropped a 24 point lead. Looking forward to seeing what changes are in place for 2026.

Flicked through a few replays, Souths 13 getting the Red card for some punches to the head, ouch, couldn’t see it on camera but gotta assume the touchie had a clear view.
 
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