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CAS Rugby 2023

Well H, I think age really isn't the issue, but the suggestion of woke isn't meant to mean its exact definition.
Let's break down your comment.

Yep nothing wrong with offering multiple winter sports, but there comes a point where too many options require too much resource and so the result for each sport/activity will probably become compromised.

Barker has been a co-ed school for a looong time, and had real Rugby depth for decades, suddenly not so.
I am not sure of the numbers but interested to see how many boys are in year 5-12, I would be surprised if the numbers were significantly lower than other CAS schools, keen to hear back.

Regardless of the reasons/excuses change is needed to avoid the obvious.
So a private school with huge fees is struggling for resources?? Have you seen the Rosewood centre and the S&C team? Barker has been coed years 10-12 for a long time yes but only recently has that extended to the younger years.

Comparison or number of boys per year would be interesting for sure maybe I’m wrong there
 

Backintheolddays

Billy Sheehan (19)
Apologies my comment wasn’t directed at Barker specifically but rather the ramifications of too much choice diluting the talent pool. Barker is an amazing school and any child would be privileged to attend. My point was intended to be universal, narrower choice generally leads to greater depth, but it is firstly about what suits the child.
 

WLF3

Billy Sheehan (19)
So a private school with huge fees is struggling for resources?? Have you seen the Rosewood centre and the S&C team? Barker has been coed years 10-12 for a long time yes but only recently has that extended to the younger years.

Comparison or number of boys per year would be interesting for sure maybe I’m wrong there
H, Relax, I didn't mean $ resources, it is a TERRIFIC school, with TERRIFIC facilities.
Fact is, any way you want to look at it, it's depth of Rugby program is struggling, and BTW, no one is happy to see that!

Good luck tomorrow, but not too much! ;)
 

Ziggy

Chris McKivat (8)
I think we can all agree that we don't want to see a struggling rugby program at Barker forcing them having to rely on alot of imports to boost their opens.
 

Ziggy

Chris McKivat (8)
Final Waverley Vs Barker Scores:

13A - Waverley 65-5
13B - Waverley 95-0
14A - Waverley 29-7
14B - Waverley 20-19
14C - Waverley 59-14
15A - Waverley 58-8
15B - Waverley 74-0
16A - Barker 13-5
16B - Waverley 26-22
4th XV - Barker 21-17
3rd XV - Waverley 38-0
2nd XV - Waverley 38-0
1st XV - Waverley 29-17

In summary, the results aren't unexpected... Only 4 close games and 2 wins to Barker.

Unfortunately, I fear for the future of Barker Rugby.

On another note, Waverley have only lost 5 CAS games in total so far. 3 against Cranbrook and now 2 vs Barker.

Would be good if we can get a similar table for Cranbrook Vs Trinity and Knox Vs Aloys
 
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Jumping_jack

Ward Prentice (10)
Waves won 15a’s 58-8 15b’s 74-0 16b’s 26-22.

lost 4ths

winning thirds now 19-

Edit: thirds win by 40 and waves win 14a’s and b’s
 
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Tank

Frank Row (1)
Some good chat.

The demographics of the families attending Barker, Knox etc....is changing.

1st generation Chinese and Indian Australians are starting to become a significant proportion of the student body. You'll never see any of these kids with a Gilbert in their hands. Football becomes the default sport for many of them making football team numbers significantly higher than rugby at Barker for 7 or 8 years now. From discussion with many Knox Dad mates it seems, subjectively, a similar circumstance.

A real estate agent mate told me Chinese migrants represent about 80% of the purchasers on the upper north shore of Sydney.

Don't expect rugby to do much other than decline further over the future as much as it saddens me.

Good luck to all teams today.
 

Eyes Up Footy

Allen Oxlade (6)
Report from Cranbrook - Trinity win 21 - 19

Trinity flew out to a 21 nil lead in the first half - Cranbrook were starved of the ball and not able to play their own game. As a Cranbrook supporter, there were a few dodgy calls but won’t use that as an excuse as Cranbrook had plenty of opportunities and were given plenty of penalties of their own. In the second half, Cranbrook finally got some ball and showed what they can do - laying on 3 nicely worked tries, however it was too little too late. Cranbrook fought hard but the 1st half let them down in the end.

I think Ah-Colt and Hatten-Ward both played themselves into CAS 1’s jerseys with their performances today - both were great. Trinity’s 8 and 15 were dangerous as well.

Looks like the Waverley-Knox game will be the decider.
 

smokinjoe

Ward Prentice (10)
Trinity 21-19 Cranbrook
Game of 2 halves
Trinity solid - minimal errors and some pace out wide for 3 converted tries (including what would be the winning 2 pointer from the sideline!)
Cranbrook loose. Dropped balls, poor lineout and kicking away possessions for no gain. 21-0
Then
Cranbrook with the ball in hand put together 3 well worked tries but again kicked it away too often and chose lineouts when they had the dominant scrum and a dodgy lineout.
Tactics and decisions proved the difference in what was a very even and hard fought matchup.
 
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