RonnyGibbs
Herbert Moran (7)
Merely posting a score that may have been of interest
NSW CAS Rugby 2021
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Well, we (Brook) have Pats next week, so there'll be some sort of comparison.
I haven't seen any games other than Trinity v Brook in R1. Fair comment about yesterdays grudge match, but Trinity must've had the pace on the paddock to score a few more tries against Pats (i would've thought).
Snort
Nev Cottrell (35)
They need the ball though. I've only seen them once, but their scrum and lineout were bullied off the park. You can have the best backs in the world, but without the ball they're not much use (this is the abiding lesson of the 1981-82 Wallaby tour to Great Britain).
Chilli Rugby
Bob McCowan (2)
Watched Cranbrook play in the wind tunnel at Campbelltown yesterday. Not a pretty game and lots of cheap shots by St Gregs. One in particular on the Cranbrook 5 will see the Greg's boy not play again this season. Appalling! As a result, the first half of the game was a mess, with no flow to the game. The Cranbrook 12 also went off in the first minutes of the game. The second half saw Cranbrook regain some structure and score a succession of great tries allowing several 2ndXV boys to play the last 10-15 mins.
Overall I give Cranbrook a B+ for the performance. Notables for Cranbrook were 7, 2, 15 & 9. For Greg's the 11 looked Dangerous. (Sorry - didn't have a program, so don't know names).
Apparently 5 starting XV will now be missing for next weeks game vs Pats.
Overall I give Cranbrook a B+ for the performance. Notables for Cranbrook were 7, 2, 15 & 9. For Greg's the 11 looked Dangerous. (Sorry - didn't have a program, so don't know names).
Apparently 5 starting XV will now be missing for next weeks game vs Pats.
Bolivia
Herbert Moran (7)
I can confirm the act you speak of, having seen the video replay, was definitely a low dog act and should be severely punished. No room in the game for that sort of cheap shot.
Bolivia
Herbert Moran (7)
Missed by the ref and touchies. Stomp to the head. Severe head gash - 13 stitches I believe.
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Bob McCowan (2)
Wow! That's shocking. I hope the correct disciplinary action will be taken off field by the school
Chilli Rugby
Bob McCowan (2)
“in an organized game of rugby the players consent to acts of violence and acts of substantial violence, and the risks of injury, from the minor to the serious, flowing therefrom, provided that those acts occurred during the course of play in accordance with the rules and usages of the game.
Players are not to be taken as consenting to the malicious use of violence intended or recklessly to cause grievous bodily injury.
The policy of the law will not permit the mere occasion of a rugby match to render innocent or otherwise excuse conduct which can discretely be found, beyond reasonable doubt, to constitute a criminal offence.”
A number of important principles stem from the above passage:
1. When participating in physical or inherently violent sports, players are taken to impliedly consent to physical violence and the associated injuries that might flow from that violence;
2. As long as the violence is within the rules and parameters of the sport, no illegal act is perpetrated when another player is injured as a result of the opponent’s conduct; and
3. When the level or nature of violence goes beyond the rules and parameters of the game, it is potentially rendered illegal, and is not to be excused just because it was perpetrated in the context of a physical sport.
In other words, each time a footy player decides to break the rules by participating in a fist fight, or by intentionally or recklessly performing a ‘head high’ tackle, they are potentially committing a criminal offence.
Given that ‘a bit of biff’ is ingrained in our sporting culture, it is unlikely police will be running onto a field to arrest footy players. However, a player who, through an impermissible level of violence, injures, incapacitates, or worse still kills another player does risk criminal prosecution.
Whilst police will invariably turn a blind eye to minor assaults on the sporting field, there is no legal reason for them not to arrest and charge a player who seriously injures another through intentional or reckless violence which is outside the parameters of the game.
Well, it’s on video so I hope it’s dealt with appropriately.
Cranbrook can approach the Pats match like any other trial and test out a few younger lads, if 5 end up being out. Not to brush off the actual injuries, which I hope are not serious.
Finsbury Girl
Trevor Allan (34)
First visit to Kings and hopefully the last - they have the worst bacon and egg roll and coffee out of any school I've visited thus far. Extremely poor form.
Cuz
Herbert Moran (7)
Wow, not sure we were watching the same game. Sure you didn’t take a wrong turn somewhere, as there were other rugby games in town over the weekend that were just a spicey….
Cheap shots… I’m struggling to see what you are talking about. It’s a contact sport & when big kids run at each other, something is going to happen. Getting injured doesn’t mean foul play happened; it probably means that the person you came into contact with was either bigger than you, hits harder than you or has better technique than you. There are a few league players in this team, so I’m thinking you may have run into one of them. And to whoever suggested calling the police to a school rugby game because blood was spilt on the rugby field; in hindsight perhaps a slight over reaction don’t you think? “Put him in Juvie”, possibly another over reaction. But to be fair he has probably been there already as some of the Greg’s boys volunteer time & either kick a footy around after school with kids who are in juvie or help some of the other kids from around the traps with homework club after school. Physical games of football, yes, but cheap shots… please
I too watched the video of the incident where the kid was opened up. I saw it as the Greg’s jackal going for the ball with the Cranbrook players head on the ground right near his foot. He’s not looking back & gets up & takes a step & gets your boy… Not the end result that anyone wants & fairly sure he won’t be the last kid that has a head gash this season. Definitely not a deliberate action from a kid who doesn’t have that crap in his game, but the step makes it look worse than it was. No doubt you would have seen it in a different light. I note no one was complaining when your player dropped some knees into our #8. He retaliated & was binned for his actions so you win that one. We had another one in the bin for the obligatory professional foul on our goal line which was also deserved, so Greg’s clearly have some work on’s to think about this week. Did the video show anything other than St Greg’s misdemeanours? Maybe time to take the rose coloured glasses off & look at both sides.
Maybe you have some take away’s from the game a well. I note the guy following play (inside the rope) in the 2 Ronnies cap who was swearing at the referee & calling for penalties. To be honest, I thought a school like yours would have a bit more class than that.
After the game, I think the referee summed it up as intense, & it was until it blew out at the end. And talking of class, I thought the presentations at the end of the game by your school were all class. Well done on that & good luck in your season.…
Cheap shots… I’m struggling to see what you are talking about. It’s a contact sport & when big kids run at each other, something is going to happen. Getting injured doesn’t mean foul play happened; it probably means that the person you came into contact with was either bigger than you, hits harder than you or has better technique than you. There are a few league players in this team, so I’m thinking you may have run into one of them. And to whoever suggested calling the police to a school rugby game because blood was spilt on the rugby field; in hindsight perhaps a slight over reaction don’t you think? “Put him in Juvie”, possibly another over reaction. But to be fair he has probably been there already as some of the Greg’s boys volunteer time & either kick a footy around after school with kids who are in juvie or help some of the other kids from around the traps with homework club after school. Physical games of football, yes, but cheap shots… please
I too watched the video of the incident where the kid was opened up. I saw it as the Greg’s jackal going for the ball with the Cranbrook players head on the ground right near his foot. He’s not looking back & gets up & takes a step & gets your boy… Not the end result that anyone wants & fairly sure he won’t be the last kid that has a head gash this season. Definitely not a deliberate action from a kid who doesn’t have that crap in his game, but the step makes it look worse than it was. No doubt you would have seen it in a different light. I note no one was complaining when your player dropped some knees into our #8. He retaliated & was binned for his actions so you win that one. We had another one in the bin for the obligatory professional foul on our goal line which was also deserved, so Greg’s clearly have some work on’s to think about this week. Did the video show anything other than St Greg’s misdemeanours? Maybe time to take the rose coloured glasses off & look at both sides.
Maybe you have some take away’s from the game a well. I note the guy following play (inside the rope) in the 2 Ronnies cap who was swearing at the referee & calling for penalties. To be honest, I thought a school like yours would have a bit more class than that.
After the game, I think the referee summed it up as intense, & it was until it blew out at the end. And talking of class, I thought the presentations at the end of the game by your school were all class. Well done on that & good luck in your season.…
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Ward Prentice (10)
I've just been afforded a sneaky glance at the footage (not easy to get my hands on) and I must say the ruck was well won for Cranbrook, with three boys over the tackled player and the ball already in the half-backs hands, and the Greg boy's foot moves in an unnatural manner. It would appear that it was an intentional act, although I am open to hear any other opinions on the matter.
I just seen the highlights of Kings v Waverley and wow. Everything I have been reading and hearing about the Waverley forwards seems to be true. From 1 through to 8 are very skilful ball players big , hard and fast on both sides of the ball. I believe 5 of the 8 are returnees from 2020. Outside backs looking like they are coming together nicely more time spent together on the field will pay off.
Kings looked to be a good side also but didn’t get the bounce of the ball go their way against a well drilled Waverley outfit.
Kings looked to be a good side also but didn’t get the bounce of the ball go their way against a well drilled Waverley outfit.
Snort
Nev Cottrell (35)
I know, I know, they're only trials. But try telling that to the boys playing them. For those boys, they're 1st XV appearances, and every one is valuable. The custom at Trinity used to be that you were awarded your 1st XV scarf after five games in the Firsts: well, Trinity is now five games into its season, which means that (if that's still the rule), there will now be boys who are entitled to wear the scarf for the first time. This stuff matters (and try telling Barker it doesn't matter beating Joeys).
Anyway, the big one this week is Barker and Riverview. Given that Knox knocked off Riverview last week, and Barker looks a better side than Knox, you'd expect a Barker win here. The trials are a handy measure of how the CAS schools are tracking against their GPS counterparts, and so far there's a healthy trend in favour of the Associated Schools. Mind you, apart from its (effectively) opposed training session against Cranbrook, Scots hasn't tested itself against any Associated School and by default seems to be emerging as favourite in this year's GPS. Still: Barker to knock off Riverview.
Waverley should account for Oakhill comfortably. Oakhill is a tough, competitive side who will put in a massive effort, but Waverley has too much polish to be bustled out of a game. WLF, take the earmuffs to this one - there's one Oakhill mother who starts screaming at kick-off and does not let up.
Cranbrook will get a morale-boosting win over St Pius. St Aloysius against St Gregory's is a good match-up, but St Aloysius should edge it. Trinity and Shore is also a good match-up, and this one is a coin-toss for me. Assuming Shore turns up, of course.
What have we learned from the trials so far? Well, I can't split Barker and Waverley, and it's hard to avoid the conclusion that the winner of the Round Three match at Hornsby will win the whole thing. Knox, Trinity and Cranbrook all have the ability to spring an upset, but not the strength in depth to win the Plume Shield. And the CAS team will be rather a good one.
Anyway, the big one this week is Barker and Riverview. Given that Knox knocked off Riverview last week, and Barker looks a better side than Knox, you'd expect a Barker win here. The trials are a handy measure of how the CAS schools are tracking against their GPS counterparts, and so far there's a healthy trend in favour of the Associated Schools. Mind you, apart from its (effectively) opposed training session against Cranbrook, Scots hasn't tested itself against any Associated School and by default seems to be emerging as favourite in this year's GPS. Still: Barker to knock off Riverview.
Waverley should account for Oakhill comfortably. Oakhill is a tough, competitive side who will put in a massive effort, but Waverley has too much polish to be bustled out of a game. WLF, take the earmuffs to this one - there's one Oakhill mother who starts screaming at kick-off and does not let up.
Cranbrook will get a morale-boosting win over St Pius. St Aloysius against St Gregory's is a good match-up, but St Aloysius should edge it. Trinity and Shore is also a good match-up, and this one is a coin-toss for me. Assuming Shore turns up, of course.
What have we learned from the trials so far? Well, I can't split Barker and Waverley, and it's hard to avoid the conclusion that the winner of the Round Three match at Hornsby will win the whole thing. Knox, Trinity and Cranbrook all have the ability to spring an upset, but not the strength in depth to win the Plume Shield. And the CAS team will be rather a good one.
WLF
Arch Winning (36)
Snort, thanks for the ear muff tip, but as AXEL well knows we have our own banshee who can be the match of anyone.
Axel will laugh at this one and if we are lucky, may even add comment!
Either way I hope they are near each other, so I can go in the other direction.
What's funny though is that the boys can't hear any of it, wouldn't follow any of the words of "advice" and nor does any of it make any sense, a world of it's own.
Otherwise on a more important note, your predictions sound pretty logical.
Assuming Jack Bowen is back for View, it will be interesting to see match up with the new Barker 10.
And NO injuries thanks to any side!
WTF?
Tom Lawton (22)
WTF?
Tom Lawton (22)
I'll jump in before Axel and agree with you 100% WLF. Been sitting in front of the "banshee" at Death Valley before, wondering if I will ever regain the use of my ears. Perhaps if they were near each other they might cancel each other out - you know every action has an equal and opposite reaction etc etc.....
Well said Snort.
However, Brook is at Dangar to St Patrick’s, not Pius. I hope that doesn’t change you tip...(?)
The Trinity 1st XV scarf presented on 5 games - that’s different, I like it.