Western Force 2013

[GaffaCHinO]

Here are a list of WA Rep sides from this year. Ill highlight the players off the top of my head who i think are real stand outs and given the chance could look to make the step up.

Force 'A'/ Perth Gold​

Hayden Baird
Trent Vatseilas
Anare Koliavu
Joe Savage
Conor Higgins
Jake Ball
Ryan Black
Jarrett Budworth
Tobias Hoskins
Nick Lekkimlin
Ryan Louwrens
Nick Haining
Ryan Hodson
Ollie Hoskins
Tyler Berry
Richard Hardwick
Wesley Roberts
Harry Scoble
Ethan Carlisle
Brent Murphy
Andy Finn
Fionn McLoughlin
Cian O'Connor
Jeremy Smith
Corey Thomas
Richard Hardwick
Nevin Mills
Daniel Griffiths
Ammon Matuato
Kane Koteka
Bradley Lacey
Teava Te Rangi
Chance Bunce
Rhys Peakman
AJ Smith
Matthew Venter
Juan Pretorius

Perth KIWIDave Kara - Kala Fullback
Benny Titoko - Neddies Wing
Maia King – Palmyra Wing
Vincent Solulu - Wests Wing
Brendan Anderson - Baysie Wing
Heremaia Te Aute - Wests Wing
Shaun Tamehana - Baysie Centres
Saula Fifita - Kala Centres
Mike Lee - Baysie Centres
Gray Gardiner - Kala 5/8
Raa Wilson - Palmyra 5/8
Marsh - Wests ½ back
Isaac Naniseni - Rocky ½ back
Pierre Roberts - Wests No.8 VICE-CAPTAIN
Nathan Oakley - Palmyra Flank
Phil Corliss Wests - Flank
Jurrell Te Kahu - Baysie Flank
Nikau Rangiwhetu - Kala Lock
Salo Tutaia - Wanneroo Lock
James Riddell - Palmyra Lock
Kaisa Reidy - Cott Prop
Travis Church - Neddies Prop
Jake Smith - Wanneroo Prop
Hamiora Tioke - Palmyra Prop CAPTAIN
John Williams - Kala Prop
Mason Pomare - Neddies Hooker
Dean Rumble - Kala Hooker
Fraser Smith - Palmyra Hooker

The Force A team at the Start of the year destroyed an Australian Barbarians Team made up of Shute Shield First Grade players. The Force team did have 4 Force players Faulkner, Whittaker, Manu and Battye for the first half (all fring players you could say a the start of the year maybe not whittinker but he was coming back from injury) but after that it was all WA payers. This List doesnt include players who have already made the move because of lack of chances players like Cruse Ah-Nau Holmes Ect.

 

[thierry dusautoir]

i Heard genia's brother was over ther enow trying to get a contract. How has he been going? Much chop?

 

[GaffaCHinO]

He is playing for Soaks along side Godwin and Turner. Before he Arrived they where 3/6 and now they are sitting second with 12/16. Not sure of the impact he has had but they are one of the comp favs. But from what I have been told don’t expect him to be part of the force next year. I guess big brother stuffed that up for him. But maybe if he can get a good enough combo going with Godwin who know what might happen.

 

[Shiggins]

I'm back

What's Matt giteau up to? I believe this is his last year up there unless he has resigned.

I don't think he is the answer at all. Just throwing it out there.

 

[Brumbies Guy]

I'm back

What's Matt giteau up to? I believe this is his last year up there unless he has resigned.

I don't think he is the answer at all. Just throwing it out there.

Isn't he out of pocket over $1M from his last stint with the Force from the Firepower deal? Doubt he'd go back especially now that he's settled in to family life on the French beaches.

 

[Nipper]

I'm back

What's Matt giteau up to? I believe this is his last year up there unless he has resigned.

I don't think he is the answer at all. Just throwing it out there.

More interested in his roommate over there, David Smith!

 

[Shiggins]

David did say he would
Come back. He was probably just being nice.

 

[en_force_er]

David did say he would
Come back. He was probably just being nice.

He probably loves WA, but pleging to come back is an easy thing to say at the time without the benefit of reflection.

Looking back he'd probably realise as a guy who can never play in NZ he'd be best to stay in Europe.

 

[Shiggins]

Alcock confirmed.

 

[GaffaCHinO]

Alcock joins the Emirates Western Force

The Emirates Western Force has signed tenacious NSW Waratahs flanker Chris Alcock for two years.
Alcock will follow former Waratahs mentor Michael Foley across the Nullarbor for the 2013 FxPro Super Rugby season.
The gritty openside flanker has played 25 matches for the Waratahs since making his provincial debut against the Cheetahs two years ago, after he was plucked from Sydney grade rugby for the beginning of the 2010 season.
Alcock, who played 12 matches in 2012, starting in the ‘7’ jersey for the bulk of the season, is Foley’s second signing following the retention of local product Kyle Godwin.
The South African-born 24-year-old says he’s excited about representing the Emirates Western Force and continuing his partnership with Foley.
“I’ve got a great relationship with Foles and he’s been very helpful in developing me throughout my professional career, so I was very pleased to have the opportunity to continue working with him at the Force,” he said.
“It’s a great opportunity for me at the Force. It’s going to be a fairly new team with a number of guys leaving, and it’s a great opportunity to be part of something new.
“I’m really excited about being a part of that Force back row in particular. In my mind it’s been one of the most dominant back rows in Super Rugby and I’m really looking forward to getting involved and hopefully learning one or two things from them.
“My goal is certainly to get into that starting team but I need to be working on what the coaches tell me to work on and doing my best to be part of that 22 in any way, shape or form.”
Foley says Alcock will play a key role within the Emirates Western Force’s star-studded back row.
“Chris is one of Super Rugby’s up-and-coming players and he’s been a consistent performer for the Waratahs over the past three seasons,” he said. “As we look to relaunch the side, someone like Chris will add to the competitive edge required – both on and off the field – to make the Emirates Western Force successful.
“Chris’ game against the Force in Perth last year shows he’ll complement the likes of [Matt] Hodgson, [Richard] Brown and [Ben] McCalman extremely well. He’s a player that’s hard on the ball but brings a balance to the game with his ball-carrying.
“As we look to finalise our squad ahead of the 2013 season, we’ll continue to identify the best up-and-coming talent that will not only provide balance to the side, but can ensure its long-term success.”
Profile
Name: Chris Alcock
Born: 24/06/1988
Position: Flanker
Height: 182cm
Weight: 103kg
Representative Rugby: 2010-2012 NSW Waratahs

http://www.westernforce.com.au/NewsEvents/NewsArticles/tabid/905/ArticleID/7467/Default.aspx

 

[en_force_er]

Hmm, looks like Ben McCalman will be playing plenty of 2nd row this year.

 

[tigerland12]

Surley the backrow has to be Brown, Hodgson and McCalman?

 

[Braveheart81]

How often in the last couple of years have all three of those players been fit at the same time?

Having four good backrowers isn't a bad idea.

 

[en_force_er]

Surley the backrow has to be Brown, Hodgson and McCalman?

My personal opinion is the back 5 of the pack should be:

4. Wykes/McCalman
5. Lynn
6. Brown
7. Holmes
8. Alcock

Now that's not a perfect pack but it'd be suited to playing expansively with Lynn taking personal responsibility for line-outs.

 

[tigerland12]

How often in the last couple of years have all three of those players been fit at the same time?

Having four good backrowers isn't a bad idea.

I meant that in regards to McCalman playing lock. It significantly hinders the line-out if he plays there, because neither Brown or Hodgson are great jumpers, and McCalman is only average.

 

[GaffaCHinO]

My personal opinion is the back 5 of the pack should be:

4. Wykes/McCalman
5. Lynn
6. Brown
7. Holmes
8. Alcock

Now that's not a perfect pack but it'd be suited to playing expansively with Lynn taking personal responsibility for line-outs.

who is Holmes?

My forward pack would be

1 Cowan
2 Charles
3 Manu (and no i dont mean Mafu)
4Wykes
5 Lynn
6 Cottrall
7 Hodgeson
8 McCaffrie

16 Whittiker
17 Faulkner
18 McCalman
19 Brown

 

[en_force_er]

I meant that in regards to McCalman playing lock. It significantly hinders the line-out if he plays there, because neither Brown or Hodgson are great jumpers, and McCalman is only average.

True but there are workarounds.

There are MANY professional teams with no business attempting attacking 7-man line-outs, but for some reason they all do it anyway. Seriously, if you worked hard on a 4-man lineouts there's all kinds of wacky bs you can pull off, you can even maul.

who is Holmes?

Holmes is Hodgson. I'm quite prone to typos. You really wouldn't have Alcock in the 22?

 

[GaffaCHinO]

True but there are workarounds.

There are MANY professional teams with no business attempting attacking 7-man line-outs, but for some reason they all do it anyway. Seriously, if you worked hard on a 4-man lineouts there's all kinds of wacky bs you can pull off, you can even maul.



Holmes is Hodgson. I'm quite prone to typos. You really wouldn't have Alcock in the 22?

With Him here yes i would use him (not sure where or how but thats not uptp me). what i was more saying is that i think the spot could have been better used. 2 very good young guys coming through and Wykes can also cover 6. with limited spots in the squad i dont want to see us but all out eggs in the back row again.

 

[Forcefield]

Pick on form. We have two good options in each backrow position.

The Force need another lock. A Wykes/Lynn second row wouldn't be hard enough.

 

[Waylon]

I meant that in regards to McCalman playing lock. It significantly hinders the line-out if he plays there, because neither Brown or Hodgson are great jumpers, and McCalman is only average.

Brown is actually a vey good lineout option. During his best years a season or two back he was the regular jumper at 2 and was very tradesman-like