Waratahs v Clan
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Tom Carter.
If HG and Roy commentated on S14 rugby ala they did the league in the mid-80s, Tom Carter would be Kevin Hardwick. We would have the "Tom Carter" playing meter in that Tom Carter is the most average player in the game (as Hardwick was in the NSWRL) and players could be ranked upon him. Such that Dean Mumm would have be '5 Carter points' (ala as good as 5 Tom Carters) whilst Phil Waugh would be 3. :fishing
But fine, go ahead and pick him NSW. Just keep him there next week as well please!!!!
If HG and Roy commentated on S14 rugby ala they did the league in the mid-80s, Tom Carter would be Kevin Hardwick. We would have the "Tom Carter" playing meter in that Tom Carter is the most average player in the game (as Hardwick was in the NSWRL) and players could be ranked upon him. Such that Dean Mumm would have be '5 Carter points' (ala as good as 5 Tom Carters) whilst Phil Waugh would be 3. :fishing
But fine, go ahead and pick him NSW. Just keep him there next week as well please!!!!
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Kevin Hardwick - he was the lion-haired Balmain utility replacement forward, wasn't he? Not a great post-match speaker as I recall.
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And so that is what you get when you take gread or above average schoolboy players and thrust them into such a high standard competition with the old fashioned grooming. It really has only been blind luch the Beale, Cooper, Turner and Horne havent gone down that road.
I am not totally up with the stats here but how many players turn out for the Crusaders, Blues etc in their first or second year out of school.
It is about time we taught these kids in grade and regional level before throwing them to the lions the way we have been doing.
I am not totally up with the stats here but how many players turn out for the Crusaders, Blues etc in their first or second year out of school.
It is about time we taught these kids in grade and regional level before throwing them to the lions the way we have been doing.
Lee Grant
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Wow - I thought Tahu might get another gig because the whole team was crap last week except for set pieces. I didn't pick this would happen in Rd 3 after I saw him dominate in the half he played in the Newcastle trial.
I mentioned on the Tahs thread (I think) in the summer that we couldn't assume that the Horne/Tahu midfield would automatically work, and that if it didn't Carter would be back in the team in place of one of them, and it's happened.
Carter was crocked for a long time in 2008 and got crocked again when he came back to club rugby. He has played very little since the 2008 Super14 except for the recent trials; so I don't know how well he will go.
He doesn't have a great range of skills compared to other 12s in the Super14 but he plays closer to his ability than most of them. Sure, he can dish out a pass now and then and contribute to a movement but by and large he's a bit of a resistor to the ball going out wide, not a conductor.
Cue naza here to say I missed the ball going out wide last Friday; so what's the difference? Actually I reckon Carter would have been good in that game when the Chiefs were rushing up and I think that the coaching staff will have an opinion that the Clan backs will do the same.
There may be a few chip kicks too.
Good on Carter though for getting his place back though. He must be going well on the training paddock. It's a pity that Tahu didn't show any form in two games, but he'll be back.
I mentioned on the Tahs thread (I think) in the summer that we couldn't assume that the Horne/Tahu midfield would automatically work, and that if it didn't Carter would be back in the team in place of one of them, and it's happened.
Carter was crocked for a long time in 2008 and got crocked again when he came back to club rugby. He has played very little since the 2008 Super14 except for the recent trials; so I don't know how well he will go.
He doesn't have a great range of skills compared to other 12s in the Super14 but he plays closer to his ability than most of them. Sure, he can dish out a pass now and then and contribute to a movement but by and large he's a bit of a resistor to the ball going out wide, not a conductor.
Cue naza here to say I missed the ball going out wide last Friday; so what's the difference? Actually I reckon Carter would have been good in that game when the Chiefs were rushing up and I think that the coaching staff will have an opinion that the Clan backs will do the same.
There may be a few chip kicks too.
Good on Carter though for getting his place back though. He must be going well on the training paddock. It's a pity that Tahu didn't show any form in two games, but he'll be back.
Lee Grant
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PS - I forgot that TPN got benched too. I don't think that would be on merit as his throwing to the lineout has been tops and he's been fizzing around the park on attack and defence and hitting a lot of folks in tackles and rucks. In prior years we had heard that he had to work on his scrummaging, but if the proof of the pudding is in the back pedalling of opponents scrums, he can't be going too bad helping out in that department.
The thing he has to work on is not giving miracle passes just before he hits the deck or just after. He should pass before the tackle or present the pill after going to ground instead.
Maybe he has a niggle or maybe it's just to give the 3rd ranked Wallaby hooker a run - though Freier looked slightly crocked last Friday IIRR. At least Freier adds another fetcher to the team (cue for naza) and his leadership is tops.
It makes the Tahs scrum even lighter though.
The thing he has to work on is not giving miracle passes just before he hits the deck or just after. He should pass before the tackle or present the pill after going to ground instead.
Maybe he has a niggle or maybe it's just to give the 3rd ranked Wallaby hooker a run - though Freier looked slightly crocked last Friday IIRR. At least Freier adds another fetcher to the team (cue for naza) and his leadership is tops.
It makes the Tahs scrum even lighter though.
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