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Ok, so Drew Mitchell's 2 tries on the weekend, on top of his RWC
performance, got me thinking about try scoring strike rates for Wallabies.
I've come up with a list of the top try scorers in Wallaby history, minimum
of 10 tries, and ranked them according to tries per game (number of tries
divided by total caps). The top ten (well, eleven) are:
Rank Player Tries Caps Tries per Cap
1st R Raymond 10 13 0.77
2nd Drew Mitchell 17 26 0.65
2nd Matt Burke 15 23 0.65
4th David Campese 64 101 0.63
5th Ian Williams 10 17 0.59
6th Col Windon 11 20 0.55
7th Cyril Towers 10 19 0.53
8th Chris Latham 40 78 0.51
9th Ben Tune 24 48 0.50
10th Peter Grigg 12 25 0.48
10th Damian Smith 10 21 0.48
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Raymond was a winger around the 1920s. Played with the likes of Tommy Lawton
Snr, Otto Nothling (famous for being the man the selectors dropped Bradman
for after the Don's first test and, obviously, for being a dual
international) and Wakka Walker.
So Mitchell's right up there. Interestingly he's come off the bench 9 times
in that, but has also scored 5 tries as a replacement. Could he go on and
beat Campo's record? It's a long way to go and he needs to make himself a
certain starter, although looking at the 5 from 9 stats, perhaps he doesn't?
Matty Burke is next. Nah, not the pretty boy. The mungo. From the 84 Grand
Slam era. This doesn't surprise me as I have a recollection of him
seemingly scoring every test he played. As it turns out, it was just a
little over every 2nd test.
Then Campo. Which surprises me a little. I obviously knew he scored heaps,
but he maintained a very good strike rate (for Wallabies) throughout.
As a point of reference, our top tryscorers list is:
Rank Player Tries
1st David Campese 64
2nd Chris Latham 40
3rd Tim Horan 30
3rd Lote Tuqiri 30
3rd Joe Roff 30
6th Matthew Burke 29
7th Stirling Mortlock 28
8th Steve Larkham 26
9th Ben Tune 24
10th Matt Giteau 21
Incidentally, Drew Mitchell is equal 13th, with Michael Lynagh, on 17 tries.
performance, got me thinking about try scoring strike rates for Wallabies.
I've come up with a list of the top try scorers in Wallaby history, minimum
of 10 tries, and ranked them according to tries per game (number of tries
divided by total caps). The top ten (well, eleven) are:
Rank Player Tries Caps Tries per Cap
1st R Raymond 10 13 0.77
2nd Drew Mitchell 17 26 0.65
2nd Matt Burke 15 23 0.65
4th David Campese 64 101 0.63
5th Ian Williams 10 17 0.59
6th Col Windon 11 20 0.55
7th Cyril Towers 10 19 0.53
8th Chris Latham 40 78 0.51
9th Ben Tune 24 48 0.50
10th Peter Grigg 12 25 0.48
10th Damian Smith 10 21 0.48
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Raymond was a winger around the 1920s. Played with the likes of Tommy Lawton
Snr, Otto Nothling (famous for being the man the selectors dropped Bradman
for after the Don's first test and, obviously, for being a dual
international) and Wakka Walker.
So Mitchell's right up there. Interestingly he's come off the bench 9 times
in that, but has also scored 5 tries as a replacement. Could he go on and
beat Campo's record? It's a long way to go and he needs to make himself a
certain starter, although looking at the 5 from 9 stats, perhaps he doesn't?
Matty Burke is next. Nah, not the pretty boy. The mungo. From the 84 Grand
Slam era. This doesn't surprise me as I have a recollection of him
seemingly scoring every test he played. As it turns out, it was just a
little over every 2nd test.
Then Campo. Which surprises me a little. I obviously knew he scored heaps,
but he maintained a very good strike rate (for Wallabies) throughout.
As a point of reference, our top tryscorers list is:
Rank Player Tries
1st David Campese 64
2nd Chris Latham 40
3rd Tim Horan 30
3rd Lote Tuqiri 30
3rd Joe Roff 30
6th Matthew Burke 29
7th Stirling Mortlock 28
8th Steve Larkham 26
9th Ben Tune 24
10th Matt Giteau 21
Incidentally, Drew Mitchell is equal 13th, with Michael Lynagh, on 17 tries.
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formeropenside
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I'm not sure that Mitchell is as good as that table makes him appear.
Not yet.
But its good to have some strike power there.
A big rugby influence on me once said that there is such a thing as natural try scorers. The types of guys who just know the way to the tryline. Drew is one of those and its a good asset to have in the team.
But its good to have some strike power there.
A big rugby influence on me once said that there is such a thing as natural try scorers. The types of guys who just know the way to the tryline. Drew is one of those and its a good asset to have in the team.
waratahjesus
Greg Davis (50)
people always ignore that his rwc heroics all came against the lesser nations in the pool games!
disco
Chilla Wilson (44)
I'm with Noddy I think Mitchell should be given more game time as he is definitely one player who has a good strike recored against all nations.
He may not of got a try against England but when he came on he made more line breaks than any other wallaby over the whole 80 minutes & had the English defence worried with every touch.
Don't forget the 2005 spring tour which was a disaster he was looking at matching Ella's 84 grand slam tour record of a try in every match against the home nations.
He may not of got a try against England but when he came on he made more line breaks than any other wallaby over the whole 80 minutes & had the English defence worried with every touch.
Don't forget the 2005 spring tour which was a disaster he was looking at matching Ella's 84 grand slam tour record of a try in every match against the home nations.
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whocares
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waratahjesus said:
We didnt really play any of the greater nations except for England. And like Disco said if he got more than 5 minutes he probably could have won us the game seeing as there were 2 points in it.
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formeropenside
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Tom said:
Pretty boy Mitchell? What do you suppose he would have done to score these two point, exactly?
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whocares
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formeropenside said:
Scored a try......
We had the equal leading try scorer warming the bench for 75 minutes while AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) wasn't getting anywhere. The 5 mintues he was on he made alot of ground and looked threatening and if he had more time to get into the game he could have got us a much needed try.
Mind you I said "'could' have scored" but it was just bad coaching to leave someone with a strike rate of 7 tries in 4 games sitting on the bench.
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Spook
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How many tries has AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) scored against the Blacks (including one of the best I think I've seen..)? :nta: Stats are wonderful things. Mitchell has a tendency to be a flake unfortunately (not catching of ball on the weekend..dropped a few try scoring opportunities). :-\ I'm not sure he would be better than AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) at fullback but he should be in the XV instead of Hynes who hasn't played well for a number of matches now. Mitchell has a better boot than AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) but would lack AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) physicality. Both a great broken field runners and until Morty retires I'd play AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) on one wing and Mitchell on the other. We need a proper fullback though.
Mortlock made more line busts than anyone else in that 1/4 quarter final from memory. Mitchell made a good impact off the bench but none that we could finish :'(
Mortlock made more line busts than anyone else in that 1/4 quarter final from memory. Mitchell made a good impact off the bench but none that we could finish :'(
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Spook
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Noddy said:
He got run over by Jo Rock in the same match leading to a try which took the gloss off it for me. He's stronger now though.
waratahjesus
Greg Davis (50)
the two things about mitchells performance are that,
a) he is usually on the opposite wing to lote and that affords him more space as lote is marked harder (last weekend he had space because mortlock was double marked in the infield, see last two bledisloes)
b)to claim the five minutes against england in the 1/4 final means something you have to ignore the fact everyone else out there had beaten the hell out of each other (or the poms had beaten the crap out of the aussies i should say) for 75 minutes, he was fresh.
he is quick and he has good positional play but he isnt a saviour and he isnt a ullback, he is a winger and as a winger he is a finisher, not a creator.
a) he is usually on the opposite wing to lote and that affords him more space as lote is marked harder (last weekend he had space because mortlock was double marked in the infield, see last two bledisloes)
b)to claim the five minutes against england in the 1/4 final means something you have to ignore the fact everyone else out there had beaten the hell out of each other (or the poms had beaten the crap out of the aussies i should say) for 75 minutes, he was fresh.
he is quick and he has good positional play but he isnt a saviour and he isnt a ullback, he is a winger and as a winger he is a finisher, not a creator.
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