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Wallabies named for HK Bledisloe match

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Lindommer

Simon Poidevin (60)
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Wallabies named for historic Hong Kong Bledisloe
October 30, 2008 - 10:54am
Story by: ARU

Western Force No.8 Richard Brown has been selected to start against the All Blacks in Hong Kong on Saturday night. The Qantas Wallabies starting XV named today for Saturday?s historic Bledisloe Cup Test in Hong Kong features five alterations from that which played New Zealand at Brisbane in September. Winger Drew Mitchell and No 8 Richard Brown replace the injured pair of Lote Tuqiri and Wycliff Palu, while flanker Dean Mumm and second row Mark Chisholm owe their promotions to injury to some extent, with Hugh McMeniman and James Horwill both also unavailable. The final change to the starting line-up sees halfback Luke Burgess return, after he missed the Brisbane Test due to injury, replacing Sam Cordingley who drops to a place among the run on reserves. The bench features a potential new cap, in the 20-year-old Western Force flanker David Pocock, who would become the 829th Wallaby ? and the ninth first timer of 2008 - should he be required to take the field. This year?s Australian Under-20 captain is one of two loose forwards named among the substitutes, with the Waratahs skipper Phil Waugh being the other, alongside prop Matt Dunning and hooker Adam Freier. Blindside flanker Mumm will provide lock cover. The bench also features the return of inside centre Berrick Barnes, who hasn?t played since being forced from the field during Australia?s historic win over South Africa at Durban in August. Barnes has recovered from the injury to the AC joint in his shoulder he sustained on that occasion, although Qantas Wallabies coach Robbie Deans says his needs were best served by a re-introduction via the bench. Tuqiri?s unavailability has created room for the inclusion on the bench of his young Waratahs team-mate Lachie Turner, who debuted earlier in the year during the 40-10 win over France at Brisbane.

The Wallabies arrived in Hong Kong on Monday evening and Deans is satisfied with how the team?s preparations have been carried out.

?While we?ve had a big build up, in terms of having had four weeks together in training camps prior to coming away, the focus specific to this match really only started once we assembled at Manly last week before heading to Hong Kong,? Deans says. He says the deposits made on the training field will hopefully provide on-field returns during the Wallabies? challenging six-week tour, acknowledging there had been a notable lift in intensity among the players since the team had assembled at Manly in preparation for Hong Kong. ?Saturday is an historic occasion, and one that the players are excited about, and proud to be a part of,? Deans says.

Australia lost by four against New Zealand in the Tri-Nations decider at Brisbane in September, but Deans welcomed the additional opportunity his side has to test itself against the number-one ranked side in the international game.

?I said after our last meeting that we?d be happy to play the All Blacks in a car park to have another game with them, and I stand by that,? Deans says. ?Each game offers us the opportunity to test ourselves and raise our standards, providing a great barometer of the progress that we?ve made as a team. While we?d obviously have liked the Bledisloe Cup series to have still been alive, the chance to gain a Test win against New Zealand remains and that is an opportunity to be cherished.?

Saturday?s match kicks off arguably the most demanding Spring Tour the Qantas Wallabies have undertaken in the modern era; being followed by Tests in Italy, England, France and Wales in consecutive weeks, before a tour finale against a star-studded Barbarians outfit at Wembley Stadium in London. Australia last completed an unbeaten Spring Tour ? albeit, one that only comprised of two matches ? a decade ago; but the Wallabies are unfazed by that history.

?This tour is a fantastic opportunity for all of us. Both collectively, and individually, we?re going to be a lot better for all that we experience over these next five and a half weeks,? Deans says. ?We?re looking forward to getting started.?

The Qantas Wallabies team to play New Zealand at Hong Kong International Stadium on Saturday November 1 (4.35pm kick off, local, 7.35pm AEST), is:

15. Adam Ashley-Cooper (Brumbies)
14. Peter Hynes (Queensland Reds)
13. Ryan Cross (Western Force)
12. Stirling Mortlock (Brumbies) captain
11. Drew Mitchell (Western Force)
10. Matt Giteau (Western Force)
9. Luke Burgess (NSW Waratahs)
8. Richard Brown (Western Force)
7. George Smith (Brumbies)
6. Dean Mumm (NSW Waratahs)
5. Nathan Sharpe (Western Force)
4. Mark Chisholm (Brumbies)
3. Al Baxter (NSW Waratahs)
2. Stephen Moore (Queensland Reds)
1. Benn Robinson (NSW Waratahs)

Run on reserves:
16. Adam Freier (NSW Waratahs)
17. Matt Dunning (NSW Waratahs)
18. Phil Waugh (NSW Waratahs)
19. David Pocock (Western Force)
20. Sam Cordingley (Queensland Reds)
21. Berrick Barnes (Queensland Reds)
22. Lachie Turner (NSW Waratahs)


Australia v New Zealand ? Historical Notes

+ This is the 156th match between Australia and New Zealand. The Qantas Wallabies have won on 45 previous occasions, while the All Blacks have prevailed 105 times. There have been five draws ? the most recent of which was a 19-19 tie at Ballymore in Brisbane in 1988.

+ The All Blacks and Wallabies have met just once previously on ?neutral? territory. That was in the semi-finals of the 1991 Rugby World Cup in Dublin where the Wallabies prevailed 16-6.

+ Four members of the Wallabies starting XV ? fullback Adam Ashley-Cooper, winger Drew Mitchell, flyhalf Matt Giteau and No 8 Richard Brown ? have previously represented Australia at the Hong Kong Sevens.

+ Wallaby skipper Stirling Mortlock needs just 16 more points to become the third Australian to post a century of points against New Zealand (following on from Matthew Burke & Michael Lynagh). Mortlock has scored five tries from 15 previous Tests against the All Blacks. Just four players from any country have more Test points against New Zealand while just three players ? Australians David Campese and Matthew Burke and South African Joost van der Westhuizen ?have crossed the All Black goal-line on more occasions.

+ George Smith earns his 20th cap against New Zealand. This is the most appearances against the All Blacks by any member of the current Wallaby squad and is the sixth highest figure achieved by any player against the All Blacks. The top four places on this list are all occupied by Australians.
 

Lindommer

Simon Poidevin (60)
Staff member
As expected. There are more leaks about sporting selections these days than there are about the federal budget.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
Lindommer said:
Run on reserves:
16. Adam Freier (NSW Waratahs)
17. Matt Dunning (NSW Waratahs)
18. Phil Waugh (NSW Waratahs)
19. David Pocock (Western Force)
20. Sam Cordingley (Queensland Reds)
21. Berrick Barnes (Queensland Reds)
22. Lachie Turner (NSW Waratahs)

smallest. bench. ever!
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
The theory may be that this game isn't as physical as a normal 'sloe encounter, and that we will need more speed and fitness to finish off the game in the HK conditions.

8. Richard Brown (Western Force)
7. George Smith (Brumbies)
6. Dean Mumm (NSW Waratahs)
5. Nathan Sharpe (Western Force)
4. Mark Chisholm (Brumbies)

18. Phil Waugh (NSW Waratahs)
19. David Pocock (Western Force)

You could argue that 6 out of those 7 are backrowers and the other one is a back.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
It's not a great team is it with the missing players from the 1st Bledisloe this year, though I suppose one can't count Vickerman any more.

Chisholm worries me. The last time I saw him at the ground was for Randwick v The Rats at the Cow Paddock in an elimination semi. He watched a lot of stuff and was outplayed by Timani, the new Brumbies signing.

I fear having two ball watchers in the second row, whose main strengths are running with the pill - and that is supposing that Chisholm catches it in the first place. And we have 2 softies there instead of 2 hard guys.

3 fetchers in the team of 22? Good Grief. Didn't we work out that 2 was 1 too many?

Why isn't Barnes starting. Not fit enough? Therefore drop him and play somebody else - provided we have someone left. And Morty at 12 again? Wasn't something proved there too?

Still, although our injuries have caused some big gaps, the filling of them will serve some purpose. I only wish that we had a better balance in the 22. Right now it looks like a dog's breakfast.

By contrast the All Blacks bench is superb.
 

disco

Chilla Wilson (44)
No talls on the bench is a worry but Deans must have some little gameplan in his head.

Has anyone thought about what subs(barring injuries) you would make during the game & what 15 will see out the last 20 minutes.
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Mumm to shift to second row if needs be. I think in the last 20 we'll look to get two opensides on there to play left/right flank, perhaps even with Smith at 8.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
Staff member
This just highlights our distinct lack of depth.

Two seagulls in the second row, a set of dwarfs off the bench and the best 13 in the world playing out of position

ABs by 15+
 

disco

Chilla Wilson (44)
[quoteMumm to shift to second row if needs be. I think in the last 20 we'll look to get two opensides on there to play left/right flank, perhaps even with Smith at 8.][/quote]

Smith, Waugh & Pocock to finish off, that could go both ways either we all Praise Robbie because we win & three fetchers give us the upper hand on the ground or we all blast Robbie because the all blacks kick to the corners & kill us in the lineout.

This just highlights our distinct lack of depth.

Two seagulls in the second row, a set of dwarfs off the bench and the best 13 in the world playing out of position

ABs by 15+

I for some reason feel that Sharpe & Chisolm are going to have big games I don't know why.
 
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Mainlander

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fatprop said:
This just highlights our distinct lack of depth.

Two seagulls in the second row, a set of dwarfs off the bench and the best 13 in the world playing out of position

ABs by 15+

I take your 13 and rase you the Worlds best 1st five being played out of position.
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
Staff member
Mainlander said:
fatprop said:
This just highlights our distinct lack of depth.

Two seagulls in the second row, a set of dwarfs off the bench and the best 13 in the world playing out of position

ABs by 15+

I take your 13 and rase you the Worlds best 1st five being played out of position.
Yeah, that just baffles me. If I had a player of Carter's ability at my disposal, he would NEVER start anywhere but 10. Don't care what other options, or lack thereof I had to put at 12, it just makes no sense. Having said that, he's probably going to play very well at 12, being such a good player, but that is not the point. Mortlock at 12...hasn't worked before, not sure why it would now.
Wouldn't have Waugh in the 22 if he wants Pocock, would prefer Mumm at lock than Chisolm as I think he does the graft better.
I would like to share your gut feeling about the 2 sea-birds at 4 and 5 Disco, but I feel an uneasy sense of foreboding about this game. Now all I need is PB to tip us by plenty and I'll know we're doomed!
 

Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
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Shizer.

Can only assume we're gonna try and run em silly. Could get very, very messy.
 

naza

Alan Cameron (40)
I'll be shocked if we lose by anything less than 40. We've essentially built this side around Luke Burgess, in his 1st year of test rugby, and his style of play.
 
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Spook

Guest
Why is Waugh on the bench? Deans didn't even play him last match so seems to have lost faith in him. Looks to be a political selection.
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
I don't think the game will be as tight as a normal Bledisloe, so it could help the likes of Sharpe and Chisholm.
 

naza

Alan Cameron (40)
Lee Grant said:
disco said:
I for some reason feel that Sharpe & Chisolm are going to have big games I don't know why.

Nobody will blame you for not knowing.

If so, the reason would be to annoy the shit out of us as they get another 10 tests on the back of a once off effort.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
Staff member
Spook said:
Why is Waugh on the bench? Deans didn't even play him last match so seems to have lost faith in him. Looks to be a political selection.

Everyone else is injured

Nau is now player, Freier is wounded too.
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
And so it goes - useless stuff by Giteau followed by a piss-poor call from the ref when Brown had the ball on the floor and AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) comes in rather than letting Cross taking Sivi.
 
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