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Wallabies 2nd favourites for World Cup ?!?!

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Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
Odds set for Rugby World Cup
Yahoo!Xtra Sport - April 26, 2010, 5:05 pm

Five hundred days out from the start of the 2011 Rugby World Cup and the TAB is set to officially open its book on who the winner could be.

The TAB odds for the Cup will be released tomorrow and it shows the All Blacks as favourites, followed by the Wallabies and the Springboks.

The top-rated side from the north are the 6-Nations champions, France, with England and Ireland next.

"With the All Blacks unbeaten in Europe for many seasons, it's hard to see how they will be troubled by a northern hemisphere side next year," says the TAB's head rugby bookie Mark Stafford.

"There's no doubt in our mind, that the major threat will come from the other two Tri-Nations sides".

Now it is the public's turn to put their money where their mouth is and show the world who they are betting on to win.

"We're the only company with the ability to track who New Zealanders think will win," says Stafford. "People can bet as little as $5.00 to show their support.

"Around 85,000 international visitors will come here during the tournament - that's almost two percent of our total population, so let's show our solidarity and tell them clearly who we think will be winning," says Stafford.

Rugby World Cup odds
New Zealand $2.20
Australia $4.00
South Africa $4.75
France $9.00
England $15.00
Ireland $15.00
Wales $20.00
Argentina $25.00
Scotland $100.00
Italy $250.00
Fiji $250.00
Samoa $500.00
Tonga $500.00
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
Here's how Ladbrokes see it:

New Zealand 11/8

South Africa 3/1

Australia 4/1

France 7/1

England 16/1

Ireland 16/1

Wales 25/1

Argentina 50/1

Scotland 125/1

Samoa 500/1

Italy 500/1

Tonga 1000/1

Fiji 1000/1

Romania 1000/1

Canada 1000/1

USA 2000/1

Portugal 5000/1

Uruguay 5000/1

Georgia 5000/1

Japan 5000/1

Namibia 5000/1
 
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I'd put my cash on Australia and France. France have a great team lined up for the tournament. I never usually put faith in Australia, but I think it is certainly their year (2011). They have a forward pack when performing can be lethal, they have a backline, who is developing into something electric. Plus not to mention they have the next up and coming forces in World Rugby; Will Genia and David Pocock.

New Zealand I don't think can win it, as with Ritchie struggling with these new interpretations, NZ having a struggle street front row, as with no solution to their half back worries.

To add, NZ and France are playing each other in the Pool matches, that should be one hell of an encounter!
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
And here is William Hill's view:

New Zealand 10/11

South Africa 4/1

Australia 9/2

France 8/1

England 16/1

Ireland 20/1

Wales 25/1

Argentina 50/1

Scotland 66/1

Italy 500/1

Samoa 500/1

Fiji 500/1

Tonga 1000/1

Namibia 1000/1

Canada 1000/1

USA 1000/1

Portugal 2500/1

Georgia 2500/1

Romania 2500/1

Japan 2500/1
 

Thomond78

Colin Windon (37)
The problem, as always, is England. The odds are farcical for them. They're gash. Yet the sheer weight of money that will come on them skews it.

Incidentally, our pool is looking like a right bastard for all concerned.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
Thomond78 said:
The problem, as always, is England. The odds are farcical for them. They're gash. Yet the sheer weight of money that will come on them skews it.

Not really. At $15, England is only 6.7 percent of the market. Make England $50 and it is 2.0 per cent. Making up the 4.7 percentage points lost would hardly affect the prices of the teams above England in the market.
 

disco

Chilla Wilson (44)
Surely the Saffas are a better bet than the Aussies? When was the last time we beat the All Blacks in NZ, 2001 with Eddie getting the tailend of Sir Rod's success.

The Boks have won there last two matches in NZ.
 

Groucho

Greg Davis (50)
Biffo said:
Here's how Ladbrokes see it:

New Zealand 11/8

South Africa 3/1

Australia 4/1

France 7/1

England 16/1

Ireland 16/1

Wales 25/1

Argentina 50/1

Scotland 125/1

Samoa 500/1

Italy 500/1

Tonga 1000/1

Fiji 1000/1

Romania 1000/1

Canada 1000/1

USA 2000/1

Portugal 5000/1

Uruguay 5000/1

Georgia 5000/1

Japan 5000/1

Namibia 5000/1

I luckily got the Wallabies at 5/1 with Ladbrokes a year ago. It seemed obvious then that we'd firm in the odds as the tournament grew closer.
 

the gambler

Dave Cowper (27)
Betfair currently has Australia at 5.4 or a little over 4/1. I got on them 4 weeks ago at $7 a few weeks ago and they have come in every weekend since.

You can currently get
NZ 2.56
AUSTRALIA. 5.4
S. AFRICA 5.6
FRANCE 10
ENGLAND 18
IRELAND 27

Betfair, being such an international operation and by being an exchange generally takes away any country bias and as a backer you generally get better odds. However as with any transaction you should take into account considerations other than the best price when making bets.
 

Thomond78

Colin Windon (37)
Except that, again, look at the odds on England. They're daft. They've lost six of the last seven to Ireland, never mind to everyone else. They're behind Scotland on a realistic assessment.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
Thomond78 said:
Except that, again, look at the odds on England. They're daft. They've lost six of the last seven to Ireland, never mind to everyone else. They're behind Scotland on a realistic assessment.

I agree in principle but England almost always plays above its recent form at RWCs.
 

the gambler

Dave Cowper (27)
If you believe that then lay them for 19/1 Thomo. Unfortunately I dont have the ability to tie up that much money till 2011 but if you believe they are unders you can bet against them. They may blow out even further come November internationals and you can cash in then if you cant wait till September 2011.
 

Thomond78

Colin Windon (37)
the gambler said:
If you believe that then lay them for 19/1 Thomo. Unfortunately I dont have the ability to tie up that much money till 2011 but if you believe they are unders you can bet against them. They may blow out even further come November internationals and you can cash in then if you cant wait till September 2011.

It would be an idea.

But I'm not sure I'd get it past the Treasury Oversight Committee, if you follow me...
 
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