Wallabies 2019 Thread

['Tattsy'TaylorFan1]

Newsome unlucky to miss out

I have him in my squad. I’m not joking I would have Alex Newsome in a 35-40 man Wallaby squad. 100% serious he is very reliable. Newsome fits the Tim Horan mould in my opinion. No one will ever be Horan and Newsome is not Horan but I think he could fit the Horan 12 template. Tom Wright and Angus Crichton, if he comes back, are a little similar as well.

 

[TSR]

The thing with credibility is that, once gone, it's very hard to get back.

 

[Slim 293]

Just having a crack at naming my Wallabies team, prepared to cop flack for the amount of Waratahs and selection of Swinton (anyone who supports the Waratahs gets belted it seems) but I think the Ben Darwin philosophy of cohesion is so important.

1. Sio 2. Fitzpatrick 3. Alalaatoa 4. Rodda 5. Simmons (vc) 6. Hanigan 7. Hooper (c) 8. Dempsey 9. Phipps 10. Foley (vc) 11. Kerevi 12. Beale 13. Ashley-Cooper 14. Haylett-Petty 15. I Folau

16. Polota-Nau or Hugh Roach 17. Kepu 18. Tupou 19. Swinton 20. Pocock 21. Gordon 22. Hodge 23. Magnay

Genia and Cooper are too polarising and I'd need to be 110% sure that I could trust them to follow Hoops and not try and run the show themselves. Kerevi and Magnay to play the Naiyaravoro role of big meat on the left wing. Swinton selection is to add enthusiasm plus I rate him very highly and would also take Scott-Young and Liam Wright to the World Cup to encourage them to stay in Aussie rugby.

Alright, whose fake account is this?

 

[Dctarget]

Just having a crack at naming my Wallabies team, prepared to cop flack for the amount of Waratahs and selection of Swinton (anyone who supports the Waratahs gets belted it seems) but I think the Ben Darwin philosophy of cohesion is so important.

1. Sio 2. Fitzpatrick 3. Alalaatoa 4. Rodda 5. Simmons (vc) 6. Hanigan 7. Hooper (c) 8. Dempsey 9. Phipps 10. Foley (vc) 11. Kerevi 12. Beale 13. Ashley-Cooper 14. Haylett-Petty 15. I Folau

16. Polota-Nau or Hugh Roach 17. Kepu 18. Tupou 19. Swinton 20. Pocock 21. Gordon 22. Hodge 23. Magnay

Genia and Cooper are too polarising and I'd need to be 110% sure that I could trust them to follow Hoops and not try and run the show themselves. Kerevi and Magnay to play the Naiyaravoro role of big meat on the left wing. Swinton selection is to add enthusiasm plus I rate him very highly and would also take Scott-Young and Liam Wright to the World Cup to encourage them to stay in Aussie rugby.

This is Shiggins dressed in blue isn't it. Okay, where are the cameras. You can come out now.

 

[dru]

Great podcast fellas, it was excellent listening.

In the podcast the lads suggested that the Reds played more of a Cheka game plan. I don’t see quite that way but the results are similar. The Reds play a more basic game which is surely easier for the Wallaby coaches to adapt quickly Into their intentions for the Wallabies. Once the first tier selections are locked away it may be that Red selections well suit the squad. Simply due to ease of adaptability into the Wallabies.

On a similar but different line, it seems to me that the Wessels game plan possibly differs the greatest from the Wallaby intentions than any other Aus Super team. In which case Quade has an uphill battle - he must show himself not only consistently in superior form, but to be able to convince the Wallaby coaching team of his ease of adaptability into the Wallaby game plan intentions.

It is a shit sandwich for Quade but it is what he is facing.

The podcast was an interesting shop window into what the Wallaby coaches are doing practically outside of the international window. I would add that despite the fact that my misgivings with Cheka are undiminished, I am impressed with this thoroughness and detail in his approach. Well done that man.

 

[Braveheart81]

On a similar but different line, it seems to me that the Wessels game plan possibly differs the greatest from the Wallaby intentions than any other Aus Super team. In which case Quade has an uphill battle - he must show himself not only consistently in superior form, but to be able to convince the Wallaby coaching team of his ease of adaptability into the Wallaby game plan intentions.

It is a shit sandwich for Quade but it is what he is facing.

I think the challenge for the Rebels will be what their plan B is when they aren't getting the ascendancy in the forwards that they need and/or face a defensive line that is pushing up fast enough to make playing so flat difficult. Cooper has been good but I don't think he's been amazing. The form of Genia and Meakes either side of him has certainly helped (and indeed Cooper has helped Meakes in particular). The Rebels need to regain that early season form they showed though. They didn't have a good tour to South Africa and prior to that I thought the wins against the Brumbies and Highlanders were pretty scratchy.

In relation to the Reds, I think the thing that is appealing to Cheika is the big ball carrying forwards like Salakaia-Loto, Tupou and Rodda. Those players coming round the corner and getting over the advantage line is essential for what he wants to do.

 

[wamberal]

Holloway has looked very good with ball in hand, too. At last.

 

[Brumbieman]

Tom Cusack, Andy Muirhead and Irae Simone must be close surely?

Don't be absurd. How on earth is there a single Brumby named there that isn't pretty much everyone's first choice in the same position?

 

[Brumbieman]

If you’re suggesting he’s been playing better than Naisarani at 8 all season, you might have a few black eyes.

I’m loving what McCaffrey has been doing but I think he’s fighting with the likes of Samu for the backrow forward spot on the bench

Completely forgot about Naisirani

Bracket him with Samu - HFC who starts.

 

[Braveheart81]

Don't be absurd. How on earth is there a single Brumby named there that isn't pretty much everyone's first choice in the same position?

I reckon there are plenty who wouldn't have McCaffrey and Banks in their starting XV.

Also hard to see how Lilo is in the conversation at the moment. He's had one good game this season and it was in week 2.

 

[barbarian]

I've always been a bit of an Arnold skeptic if I'm honest. To me there's a touch of the Henry Speight's about him - good at Super level but never quite able to replicate that form in gold. And he's just a bit of a goober, and has a tendency to spill the ball more often than most.

I acknowledge he's been dicked around by the coaching staff more than just about anyone, and the merry-go-round of locks hasn't served him well at all.

But for now I'm picking Coleman and Rodda to start, even though Coleman's form isn't outstanding. He's more of a proven commodity in the Wallaby jersey IMO.

Arnold is certainly on track for a bench spot, though.
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[RugbyReg]

1 Slipper
2 Fitzpatrick / Mafi
3 Tupou
4 Rodda
5 Simmons / Blythe
6 McReight
7 Pocock / Hooper
8 George Smith
9 Tuttle
10 To'omua
11 Daugunu
12 Kerevi (c)
13 Folau
14 DHP
15 Banks

 

[Slim 293]

1 Slipper
2 Fitzpatrick / Mafi
3 Tupou
4 Rodda
5 Simmons / Blythe
6 McReight
7 Pocock / Hooper
8 George Smith
9 Tuttle
10 To'omua
11 Daugunu
12 Kerevi (c)
13 Folau
14 DHP
15 Banks

Too many Tahs.........

 

[KOB1987]

1 Slipper
2 Fitzpatrick / Mafi
3 Tupou
4 Rodda
5 Simmons / Blythe
6 McReight
7 Pocock / Hooper
8 George Smith
9 Tuttle
10 To'omua
11 Daugunu
12 Kerevi (c)
13 Folau
14 DHP
15 Banks

I don't think Tuttle has a mortgage on the 9 jersey, he's been absent a lot this year IMO.

 

[RoffsChoice]

My main arguments for Arnold in the test team have been that he is a strong lineout operator, mobile around the park, brilliant at disrupting mauls, and, crucially, forms a good partnership with Coleman.

Rodda has him beat for sheer work in making tackles, and is probably a better scrummaging lock. Carter can match him in this area, but, unlike Rodda, doesn't form a good partnership with Coleman.

Arnold leaving next year does force our hand in a way; we can't bench our hopes in the guy long-term, and the gains and losses in picking him instead of Rodda or Philip are marginal. I think he's good enough, but not so much so that he is demaning starts.

 

[RugbyReg]

My main arguments for Arnold in the test team have been that he is a strong lineout operator, mobile around the park, brilliant at disrupting mauls, and, crucially, forms a good partnership with Coleman.

Rodda has him beat for sheer work in making tackles, and is probably a better scrummaging lock. Carter can match him in this area, but, unlike Rodda, doesn't form a good partnership with Coleman.

Arnold leaving next year does force our hand in a way; we can't bench our hopes in the guy long-term, and the gains and losses in picking him instead of Rodda or Philip are marginal. I think he's good enough, but not so much so that he is demaning starts.

what do you mean by that? What makes them form a good partnership?

 

[Derpus]

what do you mean by that? What makes them form a good partnership?

I think it was Arnold and Coleman in the locks in Dunedin which was one of our better performances, wasn't it?

Both of them have been inconsistent at test level, IMO. I'm putting my stock in Rodda at the moment.

 

[Derpus]

I've always been a bit of an Arnold skeptic if I'm honest. To me there's a touch of the Henry Speight's about him - good at Super level but never quite able to replicate that form in gold. And he's just a bit of a goober, and has a tendency to spill the ball more often than most.
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Hah! haven't heard that one in a while.

 

[Derpus]

On a similar but different line, it seems to me that the Wessels game plan possibly differs the greatest from the Wallaby intentions than any other Aus Super team. In which case Quade has an uphill battle - he must show himself not only consistently in superior form, but to be able to convince the Wallaby coaching team of his ease of adaptability into the Wallaby game plan intentions.

The Rebels game plan is by far the least suitable to test match rugby. No team ever gets that much front foot ball in a test, as the defences are so good. Throw in the ill-discipline in defence and a Rebel-like gameplay at international level is a recipe for disaster.

 

[Slim 293]

The Rebels game plan is by far the least suitable to test match rugby. No team ever gets that much front foot ball in a test, as the defences are so good. Throw in the ill-discipline in defence and a Rebel-like gameplay at international level is a recipe for disaster.

I would add that the 2018 Wallabies game plan is also not suitable to test match rugby.........