Tony McGahan back to Wallabies coaching set up?

[the plastic paddy]

Munsterfans going ballistic that he is going back to ye fellas at the end of the European season.

 

[tranquility]

He was the Churchie first XV coach in the early 2000s, blokes used to throw up in 6th period because they were so nervous about being coached by him. A very, very intense coach who goes by the name dumper. Will be good if we can get him back.

 

[p.Tah]

It says he'll be the defence coach for the Wallabies

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0222/1224312171579.html

 

[suckerforred]

Didn't I read somewhere that Jim had already been moved on????

 

[Hawko]

It says he'll be the defence coach for the Wallabies

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0222/1224312171579.html[/quote]

On the ARU site only Deans and Jim Williams rate a mention in the coaching squad. With Williams supposed to be not reappointed this appears to be a full clean out. Obviously the assistant coaches were all to blame for the WC disaster and only Deans was worth keeping. Priceless.

Strikes me that a well-credentialled NH coach coming back in 2012 might well be getting his balls in a row to take a run at the top job in 2014.

 

[Bowside]

So they are getting rid of blake who was the only bloke in the coaching team who was doing a decent job?

 

[Hawko]

So they are getting rid of blake who was the only bloke in the coaching team who was doing a decent job?

I may have a slightly jaundiced viewpoint, but I reckon to be doing a good job as a Wallaby assistant coach would be just as dangerous to your longevity as being a bad coach. Deans would not like comparisons being made.

 

[Gagger]

He was the Churchie first XV coach in the early 2000s, blokes used to throw up in 6th period because they were so nervous about being coached by him. A very, very intense coach who goes by the name dumper. Will be good if we can get him back.

Dumper?

 

[tranquility]

I dunno, its one of those weird nicknames. That what most people call him at the time.

 

[Bowside]

Munster fans dont even think he's much chop. I'll reserve judgement on him until he has spent time coaching the wobs, but there are certainly other who I thought would be higher on the pecking order than him. Wish him all the best for now.

I may have a slightly jaundiced viewpoint, but I reckon to be doing a good job as a Wallaby assistant coach would be just as dangerous to your longevity as being a bad coach. Deans would not like comparisons being made.

I agree somewhat and if true this is fucking pathetic, and rugby fans deserve better.

 

[cyclopath]

Dumper?

Maybe people were sweating and nauseated about using the can after him?

 

[suckerforred]

Munster fans dont even think he's much chop. I'll reserve judgement on him until he has spent time coaching the wobs, but there are certainly other who I thought would be higher on the pecking order than him. Wish him all the best for now.



I agree somewhat and if true this is fucking pathetic, and rugby fans deserve better.

Maybe those higher in the pecking order didn't want the job because they know what they would have to put up with. And as to being pathetic, the scary thing is I am starting to get used to thast from some sectors of the Oz rugby community. Come on guys, the new mantra needs to be 'For the Greater Good.' and FW stick by it.

 

[Bardon]

I would say McGahan is doing a good job at Munster this year. Squad has been over hauled with some fresh talent coming through and he's done that while still maintaining their challange in both Pro12 and HEC. Wouldn't be beyond the realm of possibility for him to leave Munster with some silverware to him name although there's still a lot of rugby to be played before that happens.

One of the main things Munster fans will be upset about is more upheval they could have done with some stability to build on their improvements from this season.

 

[the plastic paddy]

McGahan has done an alright job at Munster but opinions vary hugely with some believing the credit should go to Foley, the forwards coach and a Munster legend. His speciality would be defence which is where he started at Munster. Hopefully he will be starting his new job as coach of the reigning Heineken cup champions!!!!

 

[Orange Peeler]

I tend to think that all the coaching candidates mentioned in the previous threads are not suited to the style of Rugby played in Australia.

Currently I see all Australian professional coaches as just poor clones of each other, same old boring plays, same old useless outdated structures (if they have any). To compound this even further they stick with players who have passed there prime (protected species) because they are not inerested in developing the next up and coming player (let someone else do it)

I'm no Reds supporter but its funny to see how the Reds coaching staff have broken away from there contempories by playing a completely different game style than everyone else (ball in hand - some may think this is revolutionary) and they end up winning the Super 14.

Australian Rugby has always been at the forefront of attacking tactical awareness, a skill mind set we seem to have lost.

Over the last few years the ARU has selected coaches who have spent considerable time in the Northern Hemisphere or have won Seven Super Rugby tournaments. Maybe the ARU thinks that these coaches must be good because they earn large pay packets at there current clubs with regards to Northern Hemisphere Coaches

Non Australian or Australian Coaches coming back from overseas postings only bring back there Northern Hemisphere methods and patterns, they have either forgotton or have absolutley no understanding of how an Australain players thinks about the game.

The problem comes when they try and implement a game style or system which is foreign and not suited to the Australain Game (such as continously turning over the ball with mindless kicking), its like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

I would suggest that the current Super Rugby (Aust Conference teams) and the Wallaby results support my theory (I did not have the time to go into further detail on some areas but please remember its only just a theory)

Like you I just want Australian Rugby to be back on top again.

PS. Ewen McKenzine only needs to win 7 more Super Rugby tittles (8 in total) to automatically be given the Wallbies job.

 

[spooony]

I tend to think that all the coaching candidates mentioned in the previous threads are not suited to the style of Rugby played in Australia.

Currently I see all Australian professional coaches as just poor clones of each other, same old boring plays, same old useless outdated structures (if they have any). To compound this even further they stick with players who have passed there prime (protected species) because they are not inerested in developing the next up and coming player (let someone else do it)

I'm no Reds supporter but its funny to see how the Reds coaching staff have broken away from there contempories by playing a completely different game style than everyone else (ball in hand - some may think this is revolutionary) and they end up winning the Super 14.

Australian Rugby has always been at the forefront of attacking tactical awareness, a skill mind set we seem to have lost.

Over the last few years the ARU has selected coaches who have spent considerable time in the Northern Hemisphere or have won Seven Super Rugby tournaments. Maybe the ARU thinks that these coaches must be good because they earn large pay packets at there current clubs with regards to Northern Hemisphere Coaches

Non Australian or Australian Coaches coming back from overseas postings only bring back there Northern Hemisphere methods and patterns, they have either forgotton or have absolutley no understanding of how an Australain players thinks about the game.

The problem comes when they try and implement a game style or system which is foreign and not suited to the Australain Game (such as continously turning over the ball with mindless kicking), its like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

I would suggest that the current Super Rugby (Aust Conference teams) and the Wallaby results support my theory (I did not have the time to go into further detail on some areas but please remember its only just a theory)

Like you I just want Australian Rugby to be back on top again.

PS. Ewen McKenzine only needs to win 7 more Super Rugby tittles (8 in total) to automatically be given the Wallbies job.

http://dementedmole.com/2012/02/23/dumper-dumpsdumped-part-the-first/#more-2083

McGahan is seen in some vociferous circles as the man who has tried to change the Munster style of rugby, the blow-in who has marred the founding principles of how the game is played in the province. He’s the Aussie who has set out to knock down the temple of pick-and-jam, kick-the-corners, maul-over-from-the-set-piece, the tenets that brought Munster to the knock-out stages of the Heineken Cup year after year after year.

His failure to progress to the quarter-finals in 2010-11 has been used as evidence of his supposed ineptitude, and the loss to Harlequins in Thomond Park in the Amlin Cup semi-final was headlined as the nadir of Munster’s decade. In truth, he has been a marked man since the surprise loss to Leinster in the 2008-09 Heineken Cup semi-final, and every defeat has been used as a stick with which to beat him.

While there’s some truth – or if not truth, at least resonance – in these accusations, The Mole thinks that McGahan has done a solid, B-grade job.

 

[James Buchanan]

I'm no Reds supporter but its funny to see how the Reds coaching staff have broken away from there contempories by playing a completely different game style than everyone else (ball in hand - some may think this is revolutionary) and they end up winning the Super 14.

Nonsense, its been shown that the Reds employed kicking as much or more than pretty much any of the other franchises.

Your entire post smacks of trying to fit the facts to your opinion, rather than deriving an opinion from the facts.