The Cordingly contribution

[Front Door]

He's solid, he'll have a snipe, he won't take a backward step and he will have a good passing game
but
He won't go the distance, he may break down, he won't threaten the defence......and his best days are behind him. Is he a "Deans player" ?

 

[Sully]

He is an old head for when the young head goes missing.

 

[Front Door]

It's a young mans game
Slow old halfbacks with chronic foot injuries should tread carefully

 

[Ash]

Hi CHISELHEAD.

He's a better option than Sheehan. That's the important part. If the little wannabe Sheehan actually was starting the game then I will be physically sick.

 

[Sully]

Yes he is on his last leg Chis, But he has a few good games in him.

 

[Sully]

Hi CHISELHEAD.

He's a better option than Sheehan. That's the important part. If the little wannabe Sheehan actually was starting the game then I will be physically sick.

Who would you have picked Ash?

 

[Ash]

Hi CHISELHEAD.

He's a better option than Sheehan. That's the important part. If the little wannabe Sheehan actually was starting the game then I will be physically sick.

Who would you have picked Ash?

Lucas for experience, but that's moot as he's had injury problems anyway. Unfortunately there's not much else apart from Phibbs - who has been good at club level so far. I can see why Sheehan was picked, but I really don't want him to start and I hope Cordingley can last the 80.

 

[Major Spliff Biggins]

Ah, Chiselhead... as subtle as a wet fart in a porno...

I have similar concerns for Cordingly.
Burgess was coming along nicely, and this has thrown the proverbial cat amongst the pigeons.
Sheehan for mine should never be near a Wallaby jersey, unless he is doing laundry for the team. Even then he'd probably spill the powder and push the hills hoist around, trying to show how tough he is. :

Little man with little skill. Yes he doesn't take a backwards step, but his poor pass and piss poor box kicking is a liability. I can only hope Deans has been spending a $hitload of time at training improving his game and attitude.

I would have gone for Phibbs as an emergency call out ahead of Sheehan, and prey like hell that Holmes improves ASAP to give us some depth.

And no, do not move Giteau back into 9.

 

[Front Door]

Nothing wrong with this thread Spliff
Gits to 9, Barnes to 10, Tahu to 12

Cordingly benched. Sheehan left right out

 

[Major Spliff Biggins]

What has Tahu done to suggest he is a capable inside centre?

He had one great game against ordinary opposition when playing for Aus A. That is all.
I'm not suggesting he'll never get there, but what merits his current inclusion?

And Frontdoor, Chiselhead, Hurricane, The Saint, whatever your name is- I wasn't suggesting the topic wasn't one worthy of discussion, more that your identity is obvious.

 

[Sully]

So basically we agree start Cinderella then when his foot breaks everyone moves in one except morty

 

[high tower]

Sheehan will be on the bench, Cordingley's track record suggests that he will not last two full games of international rugby over consecutive weeks. Deans will put Sheehan on the field at sometime during the first game, he will want to see for himself if the tough nut can play at this level, and he will try and nurse Cordingley thru the first game so he is still in the mix for game two.
If the pack gets smashed in the scrums and monstered in the line outs then Sheehan will be as good an option as anyone and maybe the best one. Yes he runs too often, but he generally gets over the advantage line and he rarely turns it over, it would of being good to see Burgess in SA - maybe a few of his supporters would have seen that he struggles when going backwards( yeh like most halfbacks, but he maybe more so).

 

[Lee Grant]

This thread is similar to others wherein people explain that this player is no good as a second rower and this one no good at 8. Then there are the self satisying posts wherein people explain to others, who are apparently ignorant, that this prop and the other is no good.

Most of us here know of the limitations of our players, or should, but it of no use to explain to us what we know already; though perhaps it makes one feel better to type out the words.

It's better to post about which of the players in contentious positions are the best choices of those available, and why. If there is no good choice, it is of no purpose to carp about a player who is chosen to start or back up.

 

[Lindommer]

Cordingley performed as most of us expected last night: good passes but as slow as a wet week. Importantly, he went missing on too many occasions and left the breakdown passing to a passing forward; not good enough. Cordingley's geriatric style is in stark contrast to Burgess' speed and sense of urgency. It's possible to fix Burgess' wayward passing but not Cordingley's snail-like approach to the game.

Thanks for the good work in the past, Cinderella. Enjoy your time at Grenoble.

 

[Spook]

Sheehan missed a rather important tackle last night.

 

[Pfitzy]

Yep - he is not up to this level young Brett. If he could turn 50% of his anger into usefulness, he might have a shot.

 

[Ash]

Cordingley performed as most of us expected last night: good passes but as slow as a wet week. Importantly, he went missing on too many occasions and left the breakdown passing to a passing forward; not good enough. Cordingley's geriatric style is in stark contrast to Burgess' speed and sense of urgency. It's possible to fix Burgess' wayward passing but not Cordingley's snail-like approach to the game.

Thanks for the good work in the past, Cinderella. Enjoy your time at Grenoble.

One of my Saffa friends commented that Cordingley was one of our better players, and I agreed. Best pass easily, and some damn nice cover tackles. Cordingley actually watched some of his forwards pass whilst he was at the ruck, he needs to be more assertive. Sheehan was awful, in contrast. Missed tackles, passed to the opposition hooker and slow loopy passes.

Burgess has a lot he could learn from Cordingley's pass.

 

[Scotty]

Lindommer, I'd be happy to announce that Burgess is our future long term halfback if he had a good pass, but he doesn't and it worries me that he hasn't managed to get it together consistently - it really is the half's no 1 job and required skill. If he can't prove his consistency in this area he is only going to be a stop gap until someone comes along that can.

 

[Scarfman]

I would also say that's it's the halfback's job to not take 3 steps before passing. But Greegs managed to contribute positively to the Wallabies for most of his career.

What LB offers (his list of good points) far outweighs his bad one, even if it is a very important one. It's like playing a fullback who hasn't got a great kick. But I'd still pick Christian Cullen, wouldn't you?

I reckon he speeds everything up so much, and freaks out defences constantly, we can build a whole approach to attacking rugby from it.

 

[fatprop]

What has Tahu done to suggest he is a capable inside centre?

He had one great game against ordinary opposition when playing for Aus A. That is all.
I'm not suggesting he'll never get there, but what merits his current inclusion?

And Frontdoor, Chiselhead, Hurricane, The Saint, whatever your name is- I wasn't suggesting the topic wasn't one worthy of discussion, more that your identity is obvious.

Since when is the NZ Maori "ordinary", his "merits" is his form for Aus A.