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Super Rugby Pacific 2025

Rebel man

John Thornett (49)
Do you think all those kids would be so keen on playing league is the Storm were shit?
Well they chose the Rebels and union over the Storm and as you are so keen to remind everyone the Rebels were not successful. It is the significant financial investment that the NRL is putting into the grassroots that is winning the battle
 

Bullrush

Geoff Shaw (53)
This isn’t about the Rebels, it’s about the fact shrinking to greatness doesn’t work. We can look directly at the results of cutting to Force.

Especially when your biggest rivals are growing
How did 'growing to greatness' work out?
 

Bullrush

Geoff Shaw (53)
Well they chose the Rebels and union over the Storm and as you are so keen to remind everyone the Rebels were not successful. It is the significant financial investment that the NRL is putting into the grassroots that is winning the battle
Right....you don't think kids are attracted to the team that is winning premierships as opposed to the team that celebrates 5 wins from 14 as their best ever?
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Well feel free to give the actual numbers to justify the claim of 'huge numbers'....

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Rebel man

John Thornett (49)
Right....you don't think kids are attracted to the team that is winning premierships as opposed to the team that celebrates 5 wins from 14 as their best ever?
Obviously they weren’t as we had 20 years of the Storm winning with union being the dominant participation code of rugby in the state. How is that possible if the Storm are so attractive because they are winning premiership?

As the Storm winning has been a constant
 

Rebel man

John Thornett (49)
@Bullrush what understanding of the sporting landscape do you have in Victoria? As I have played multiple sports here coached and volunteered at multiple clubs. I am not interested in your thoughts on the Rebels and their success or lack of it. Yet it is painful obviously that you’re not qualified to comment on the state of grassroots sports in this state
 

Bullrush

Geoff Shaw (53)
@Bullrush what understanding of the sporting landscape do you have in Victoria? As I have played multiple sports here coached and volunteered at multiple clubs. I am not interested in your thoughts on the Rebels and their success or lack of it. Yet it is painful obviously that you’re not qualified to comment on the state of grassroots sports in this state
Good for you.

I'm talking about the Rebels because this is the Super Rugby 2025 thread and you keep bringing them up , for what reason I'm not sure because they won't be in it.
 

Bullrush

Geoff Shaw (53)
I ask for the number
You tell me to 'google it'
I give you the google results
I'm disingenuous

Why don't you just and be honest say that you don't know what the number is either....
 

Rebel man

John Thornett (49)
Good for you.

I'm talking about the Rebels because this is the Super Rugby 2025 thread and you keep bringing them up , for what reason I'm not sure because they won't be in it.
I have been talking about pathways and the challenges the game faces. Not once have I said in this thread that they should be re-instated.

The point was that shrinking to greatness by putting the nail in the coffin of your third most fruitful marketed when it comes to player development is going to impact on squad depth going forward.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
I ask for the number
You tell me to 'google it'
I give you the google results
I'm disingenuous

Why don't you just and be honest say that you don't know what the number is either....

It's obviously a lot more than that... obviously.

This is not the first time you’ve engaged in this topic in a purposely dishonest manner, and I don’t really care to go at it again.

Mods - can we shut this shit show down?
 

Rebel man

John Thornett (49)
Off the top of my head Victorian kids to achieve international honours in the last 15 odd years, I maybe missing some
Wallabies
Josh Canham
Rob Valetini
Pete Samu
Jordy Uelese
Isaac Ado-Kalia
Lloyd Johansson
Christian Leali'ifano
Pone Fa'amausili
Rob Leota
Tetera Faulkner
Digby Ioane

Italy
Monty Ioane

Scotland
Sione Tuipulotu
 
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