Lee Grant
John Eales (66)
There will be a few of these "teams" going the rounds it looks like Rugby 365 is first out of the blocks.
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S14: Team of the Tournament
Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:26
We could use all kinds of clichés for our team of the tournament - like we are 'Bullish' or we have a 'Lighter shade of blue', but all we need to say is: 61-17.
Yes, that explains why the Bulls have dominated out selections through the season and also make up the bulk of our Team of the Tournament.
Surprisingly we only have six Bulls in our team - which may upset a few Pretoria fans after this past weekend.
However, we do have another three Bulls on our 'Bubbling under' list - effectively our bench.
The Sharks, Chiefs and Hurricanes all have two players each in our starting XV - while the Lions, Western Force and Waratahs make up the numbers.
So here it is, our coveted annual Super Rugby selection!
rugby365's Team of the Tournament:
15 - Stefan Terblanche (Sharks):
His team may have fallen short of the play-offs, but if it was consistency you looked for, Terblanche was your man.
Bubbling under: Zane Kirchner (Bulls)
14 - Sitiveni Sivivatu (Chiefs):
It's a pity about his injury late in the season, but he is just such an awesome finisher.
Bubbling under: Rene Ranger (Blues)
13 - Jaque Fourie (Lions):
It is the mark of a quality player that he can look world class in a team hovering near the bottom of the standings.
Bubbling under: Richard Kahui (Chiefs)
12 - Wynand Olivier (Bulls):
There is no doubt he was the in-form No.12 in South Africa and while he had strong competition from Ma'a Nonu, Olivier showed his real class in the play-offs.
Bubbling under: Ma'a Nonu (Hurricanes)
11 - Bryan Habana (Bulls):
Slow out the blocks, but when he got going there was no stopping Habana. His two tries in the Final were gems.
Bubbling under: Henno Mentz (Lions)
10 - Matt Giteau (Western Force):
He was the most consistent and while Morné Steyn was the best No.10 in South Africa, Giteau simply got more votes over the 16 weeks of the competition.
Bubbling under: Morné Steyn (Bulls)
9 - Fourie du Preez (Bulls):
Nobody even came close - there was daylight between Du Preez and the rest.
Bubbling under: Rory Kockott (Sharks)
8 - Pierre Spies (Bulls):
And to think there were 'experts' who questioned his credentials earlier in the season. His performances in the play-offs certainly silenced them.
Bubbling under: Rodney So'oialo (Hurricanes)
7 - Phil Waugh (Waratahs):
This was a close call in a very tight race. In the end Waugh shaded compatriot George Smith.
Bubbling under: George Smith (Brumbies)
6 - Adam Thompson (Highlanders):
This was one of the most closely contested positions and in the end we went for Thompson base on his consistency, but it was no easy task.
Bubbling under: Victor Vito (Hurricanes)
5 - Victor Matfield (Bulls):
There were times when people questioned his allround game, but his statistics in the play-offs show that he can play a tight game - not that he needed to in the Final.
Bubbling under: Isaac Ross (Crusaders)
4 - Bakkies Botha (Bulls):
It was a close call between two of the most physical guys in the game - Botha and Brad Thorn. Botha just edged the Kiwi.
Bubbling under: Brad Thorn (Crusaders)
3 - Clint Newland (Highlanders):
There was the odd game - such as against the Sharks - when the Highlanders were under pressure. But throughout the season they were the most dominant scrum.
Bubbling under: John Smit (Sharks)
2 - Aled de Malmanche (Chiefs):
It was noticeable how the Chiefs lost that physical edge in the Final when he left the field, groggy and injured. We're not saying the Chiefs would have won, but the Chiefs may have looked a little more competitive in the contact area.
Bubbling under: Willie Wepener (Lions)
1 - Tendai Mtawarira (Sharks):
He is truly a Beast and a damn fine rugby player. His skill levels are remarkable for such a big man, but maybe that is because till a few years ago he was still playing No.8. Taking that into consideration, his scrumming is amazing.
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Comments:
15. Terblanche was great this year when his team had the ball. He was also good taking the high ball and is right up there in class with Lee Byrne of the Ospreys and Rob Kearney of Leinster. However his bravery taking the high ball is at odds with the rest of his defensive play because he has a heart the size of a pea when it comes to tackling. I'd have Kirchner instead of him and I would have had Gerrard ahead of both of them had he stayed healthy and racked up more brownie points.
14. Sivi - no question. He missed a lot of games but was so good for the ones he played in, that you have to pick him. He played on the left wing; so the selectors have cheated a bit to get Habana in their team but that's fair enough.
13. Fourie - Terrific player. Ioane would have got the spot had he played all his games there and not been injured. Mind you, JF missed a few games too, come to think about it. Both were far better in the S14 than Kahui IMO.
12. Olivier - clearly, and clearly Nonu 2nd. Olivier is having his best season ever and it's a pity that he will be overlooked for JdV for the Boks.
11. Habana - They are right in saying that he had a slow start. Wing was a weak position in the S14 this year because there weren't a lot of standouts apart from Habana and Sivi.
10. Giteau - Yeah, and the Kiwi rugby mag Rugby News had him as the player of the tournament.
9. FdP - probably the best player in the world as the commentators said during the final but geez - but I thought that Kockott came a lot closer than they said. Cocky probably lost points because of poor discipline. Leonard was good too.
8. Spies - he missed 74 tackles this year, which was the worst in the S14, but you'd still have him in the team. Waldrom of the Crusaders would have got my vote for 2nd ahead of Rodney.
7. Waugh - I laughed when I read this (no don't copy my words to turn it around). It wasn't because I thought he wasn't worthy, but because I thought of what naza would think of the pick. For those like naza who may say they can't see why Waugh would be picked, I believe them - that they can't see why. I can.
Yeah Smith was right up there - he's our best player in all forms of rugby - but I wouldn't change Waugh for Smith in a tight game, though I would otherwise. Smith got voted the Oz player of the S14 by one group of "selectors" on a 3-2-1 basis, but Kiwis in Rugby News had Waugh ahead on the same basis.
Just goes to show that there are different opinions.
I thought the best opensider in the comp was Brussouw but he lost points with me because of too many penalties given away.
6. Tompson - even better than last year and wasn't Vito a revelation? I'd have Read as my 2nd guy.
5/4 Can't argue with the 4 guys mentioned though I'd probably have Mumm ahead of Ross because he plays a harder game. Matfield and Botha were the best 2 locks in the tournament though Bakkies indiscipline may have cast some doubt in the mind of the selectors.
3. Newlands - he'll do me - but this was not a strong position compared to other years when the RSA teams had 3 candidates. A pity Ben May was injured at the end of the season. The Chiefs needed him.
2. de Malmanche - good pick except his lineout throwing is crap and ditto for the 2nd pick Wepener - the ugliest guy in the Super14. Not a strong year for hookers who are good around the park on defence and offence, and also good at throwing the ball to lineout.
1. Beast yep - more powerful than Benn Robinson around the rucks but Benn should have got a mention and if not him, Alexander.
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S14: Team of the Tournament
Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:26
We could use all kinds of clichés for our team of the tournament - like we are 'Bullish' or we have a 'Lighter shade of blue', but all we need to say is: 61-17.
Yes, that explains why the Bulls have dominated out selections through the season and also make up the bulk of our Team of the Tournament.
Surprisingly we only have six Bulls in our team - which may upset a few Pretoria fans after this past weekend.
However, we do have another three Bulls on our 'Bubbling under' list - effectively our bench.
The Sharks, Chiefs and Hurricanes all have two players each in our starting XV - while the Lions, Western Force and Waratahs make up the numbers.
So here it is, our coveted annual Super Rugby selection!
rugby365's Team of the Tournament:
15 - Stefan Terblanche (Sharks):
His team may have fallen short of the play-offs, but if it was consistency you looked for, Terblanche was your man.
Bubbling under: Zane Kirchner (Bulls)
14 - Sitiveni Sivivatu (Chiefs):
It's a pity about his injury late in the season, but he is just such an awesome finisher.
Bubbling under: Rene Ranger (Blues)
13 - Jaque Fourie (Lions):
It is the mark of a quality player that he can look world class in a team hovering near the bottom of the standings.
Bubbling under: Richard Kahui (Chiefs)
12 - Wynand Olivier (Bulls):
There is no doubt he was the in-form No.12 in South Africa and while he had strong competition from Ma'a Nonu, Olivier showed his real class in the play-offs.
Bubbling under: Ma'a Nonu (Hurricanes)
11 - Bryan Habana (Bulls):
Slow out the blocks, but when he got going there was no stopping Habana. His two tries in the Final were gems.
Bubbling under: Henno Mentz (Lions)
10 - Matt Giteau (Western Force):
He was the most consistent and while Morné Steyn was the best No.10 in South Africa, Giteau simply got more votes over the 16 weeks of the competition.
Bubbling under: Morné Steyn (Bulls)
9 - Fourie du Preez (Bulls):
Nobody even came close - there was daylight between Du Preez and the rest.
Bubbling under: Rory Kockott (Sharks)
8 - Pierre Spies (Bulls):
And to think there were 'experts' who questioned his credentials earlier in the season. His performances in the play-offs certainly silenced them.
Bubbling under: Rodney So'oialo (Hurricanes)
7 - Phil Waugh (Waratahs):
This was a close call in a very tight race. In the end Waugh shaded compatriot George Smith.
Bubbling under: George Smith (Brumbies)
6 - Adam Thompson (Highlanders):
This was one of the most closely contested positions and in the end we went for Thompson base on his consistency, but it was no easy task.
Bubbling under: Victor Vito (Hurricanes)
5 - Victor Matfield (Bulls):
There were times when people questioned his allround game, but his statistics in the play-offs show that he can play a tight game - not that he needed to in the Final.
Bubbling under: Isaac Ross (Crusaders)
4 - Bakkies Botha (Bulls):
It was a close call between two of the most physical guys in the game - Botha and Brad Thorn. Botha just edged the Kiwi.
Bubbling under: Brad Thorn (Crusaders)
3 - Clint Newland (Highlanders):
There was the odd game - such as against the Sharks - when the Highlanders were under pressure. But throughout the season they were the most dominant scrum.
Bubbling under: John Smit (Sharks)
2 - Aled de Malmanche (Chiefs):
It was noticeable how the Chiefs lost that physical edge in the Final when he left the field, groggy and injured. We're not saying the Chiefs would have won, but the Chiefs may have looked a little more competitive in the contact area.
Bubbling under: Willie Wepener (Lions)
1 - Tendai Mtawarira (Sharks):
He is truly a Beast and a damn fine rugby player. His skill levels are remarkable for such a big man, but maybe that is because till a few years ago he was still playing No.8. Taking that into consideration, his scrumming is amazing.
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Comments:
15. Terblanche was great this year when his team had the ball. He was also good taking the high ball and is right up there in class with Lee Byrne of the Ospreys and Rob Kearney of Leinster. However his bravery taking the high ball is at odds with the rest of his defensive play because he has a heart the size of a pea when it comes to tackling. I'd have Kirchner instead of him and I would have had Gerrard ahead of both of them had he stayed healthy and racked up more brownie points.
14. Sivi - no question. He missed a lot of games but was so good for the ones he played in, that you have to pick him. He played on the left wing; so the selectors have cheated a bit to get Habana in their team but that's fair enough.
13. Fourie - Terrific player. Ioane would have got the spot had he played all his games there and not been injured. Mind you, JF missed a few games too, come to think about it. Both were far better in the S14 than Kahui IMO.
12. Olivier - clearly, and clearly Nonu 2nd. Olivier is having his best season ever and it's a pity that he will be overlooked for JdV for the Boks.
11. Habana - They are right in saying that he had a slow start. Wing was a weak position in the S14 this year because there weren't a lot of standouts apart from Habana and Sivi.
10. Giteau - Yeah, and the Kiwi rugby mag Rugby News had him as the player of the tournament.
9. FdP - probably the best player in the world as the commentators said during the final but geez - but I thought that Kockott came a lot closer than they said. Cocky probably lost points because of poor discipline. Leonard was good too.
8. Spies - he missed 74 tackles this year, which was the worst in the S14, but you'd still have him in the team. Waldrom of the Crusaders would have got my vote for 2nd ahead of Rodney.
7. Waugh - I laughed when I read this (no don't copy my words to turn it around). It wasn't because I thought he wasn't worthy, but because I thought of what naza would think of the pick. For those like naza who may say they can't see why Waugh would be picked, I believe them - that they can't see why. I can.
Yeah Smith was right up there - he's our best player in all forms of rugby - but I wouldn't change Waugh for Smith in a tight game, though I would otherwise. Smith got voted the Oz player of the S14 by one group of "selectors" on a 3-2-1 basis, but Kiwis in Rugby News had Waugh ahead on the same basis.
Just goes to show that there are different opinions.
I thought the best opensider in the comp was Brussouw but he lost points with me because of too many penalties given away.
6. Tompson - even better than last year and wasn't Vito a revelation? I'd have Read as my 2nd guy.
5/4 Can't argue with the 4 guys mentioned though I'd probably have Mumm ahead of Ross because he plays a harder game. Matfield and Botha were the best 2 locks in the tournament though Bakkies indiscipline may have cast some doubt in the mind of the selectors.
3. Newlands - he'll do me - but this was not a strong position compared to other years when the RSA teams had 3 candidates. A pity Ben May was injured at the end of the season. The Chiefs needed him.
2. de Malmanche - good pick except his lineout throwing is crap and ditto for the 2nd pick Wepener - the ugliest guy in the Super14. Not a strong year for hookers who are good around the park on defence and offence, and also good at throwing the ball to lineout.
1. Beast yep - more powerful than Benn Robinson around the rucks but Benn should have got a mention and if not him, Alexander.