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Rugby coaching

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CanadianRugby

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So I've recently started helping with a local high school team here. The biggest problem with Canada is the limited exposure people have to rugby before high school, so they don't really know what it looks like. Similarly, while I play and watch as much rugby as a I can, I haven't ever really been coached at an elite level. Just wanted to start this thread for A) coaching tips and B) if anyone has any good coaching websites. I found a few, but I was hoping for some more indepth stuff. Most of the places I found were things like "players should be low in scrums" or "Quick ball is better" which I know already.

Any help would be great.
 
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CanadianRugby

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on second thought, maybe this should be in the Rugby section. Admins should move it at their will. (Like I could stop them)
 

James Buchanan

Trevor Allan (34)
CanadianRugby said:
So I've recently started helping with a local high school team here. The biggest problem with Canada is the limited exposure people have to rugby before high school, so they don't really know what it looks like. Similarly, while I play and watch as much rugby as a I can, I haven't ever really been coached at an elite level. Just wanted to start this thread for A) coaching tips and B) if anyone has any good coaching websites. I found a few, but I was hoping for some more indepth stuff. Most of the places I found were things like "players should be low in scrums" or "Quick ball is better" which I know already.

Any help would be great.

As I come from a similar background (not a lot of rugby before high school), I can talk a little about what I went through. That being said, I couldn't exactly say my coaching was elite.

I think the most important things to emphasise in that situation are the basic skills (passing, support play, defensive lines, rucking and mauling) and fitness. Fitness makes them realise that the game is serious and it will help them win more games than pretty much any other factor and winning makes players enjoy the game even more.

We did a lot of drills just working on the simple things, such as drawing the man and passing. That one is easy to do, you can do it in the 5 metre line next to the sideline with two lines of your players. Give the ball to one line, two players run around a witch's hat and then come running up at a single player from the other line who has done similarly. That single player has to determine when to commit to a tackle, and the two players have to set up so that the player with the ball draws the tackle and offloads or if the defensive player doesn't commit to the tackle then runs around him.

Another one that springs to mind is tackling and getting up straight away, which can be done by a 'piggy in the middle' type situation where a player has to tackle players running at him from various directions, put them down and get back up again in time to tackle the next. That's good because it works on tackling technique, particularly when exhausted, fitness and being able to get back to their feet quickly in games.

Scrumming will take forever to learn. Its why I never really got out of the front row, even when I was fit enough to play loose. The most important things to teach players when they are scrumming is body position, particularly maintaining a straight back for the front rowers. For kids who haven't scrummed a lot, its very easy to get bad technique which will cause them no end of back injuries, as well as de-power your scrum. I wouldn't worry so much about scrum height in general, as long as you can get your front rowers to have a strong, flat and straight back is the most important thing, preferably with their hips just slightly below their shoulders, as that will make for more stable scrums - which at the junior level is far more desirable than effective scrums.

Keep your lineouts basic to start with. Don't do the dancing and such until you get the players routinely timing their jumps and hitting their throws at the highest point of the leap.

Support play is imperative. I'd start with that from day dot. I can think of some drills which kind of teach it, but none specifically for what I am thinking of. Particularly if you can devise a drill that will get players thinking about what they are doing after they have passed and backing up the player they have passed it to, or getting themselves up after the ruck and over to the next one quickly, then you're on your way.

Speaking of rucking, too often we dealt with that merely from the 'getting to the ruck' perspective, and when there we had little or no resistance to the actual play of rucking. Make sure you have opposition (be it coaches or a shadow team) working to try and counter ruck or pilfer the ball. Players need to be hard at the ruck in training or they won't be in the game.

That's just a few things off the top of my head, mostly stuff I remember or think would be useful. I wouldn't rely on my information over those of more expert coaches, but it may give you some ideas.
 

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
In regards to yourself, take the rugby aspect away and look for coaching info. The sports are different but the coaching phylosophy is the same. Focus on Junior coaching.

Safety in contact would be the first thing I would teach. Tecnique, tecnique, tecnique is the key.

Walk them through some taped games of rugby and make it interactive.

Hope this helps

Congratulations on getting out there and promoting our great game in a developing country. Good stuff.
 

Aussie D

Desmond Connor (43)
Matt Ryan (former Wallaby prop) used to have some grreat coaching advice on his old broadside website. Not sure if the site or the information is still online though.... Some really good advice for coaching scrummaging especially.
 

Jets

Paul McLean (56)
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http://www.coachingtoolbox.co.nz/toolbox/

http://www.coachesinfo.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=47&Itemid=147

http://www.irbcoaching.com/

These are a few good ones. If you go to some of the national union websites you can get some good info. The Rugby Canada one was very good before they changed the site. Not sure where to find the info now.

Where abouts are you? I coached in Vancouver last year and Dave Brown from BC Rugby was a great help. Also hit up some local clubs, many are willing to get out and spread the word of rugby.
 
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CanadianRugby

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Thanks for the info, I'm sure its going to be helpful.

Ruggo said:
Congratulations on getting out there and promoting our great game in a developing country. Good stuff.

You developing RUGBY country right? ;)
 

Langthorne

Phil Hardcastle (33)
I agree that fitness and basic skills should be the first priority, as the team which is superior in those areas will tend to be the winning team. [At the elite level, fitness and basic skills are almost uniformly high, meaning that other areas become more significant]

Beyond that all I can offer are a few ideas based on my own experience and prejudices:

-teach all players as many skills as possible (the backs need to know how to clean out, maul etc...and the forwards need to know how to pass and kick, although they must be sworn off kicking in a game upon pain of death)

-further to the first point, opposed training is best. If you don't have enough for 2 teams, divide the players into 2 groups and make do.

-have as little separate forwards and backs training as possible


Best of luck!
 

AussieDominance

Trevor Allan (34)
CanadianRugby said:
Thanks for the info, I'm sure its going to be helpful.

Ruggo said:
Congratulations on getting out there and promoting our great game in a developing country. Good stuff.

You developing RUGBY country right? ;)

The old man actually gets back from taking his school side on a tour to Canada in 2 days.... They aren't the strongest school though!
 
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CanadianRugby

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Jets said:
Where abouts are you? I coached in Vancouver last year and Dave Brown from BC Rugby was a great help. Also hit up some local clubs, many are willing to get out and spread the word of rugby.

I'm in Ottawa. I play for a club here and one of the more selfish reasons is I'm trying to up the recruitment at my current club.

The point about having them watch games is a good one. As a rugby obessive I subscribe to a rugbyzone and watch all the Super14 games online, but not everyone is as dedicated as I am (which I just don't understand), which means they only refer to their fellow teammates. There is no quicker way for players to build bad habits than a bunch of 14 years old playing for the first time watching each other.

Appreciate your help. I'm sure you'll here more from me after we try some drills this week.
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Also - contact the national rugby union and see if there are any players or ex-players in the area who might like to come down and run the kids through some drills. Having someone experienced juts to kit things off is always handy.
 
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