Robbie Deans: the All Blacks are fucking cheats

[Gagger]

from http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_6405248,00.html

Deans queries 'cynical' All Black tactics


Australia coach Robbie Deans has added further spice to next month's Bledisloe Cup clash in Hong Kong by claiming New Zealand's current approach will eventually come back to bite them.

While there is no doubt the All Blacks were deserving winners of the recently completed Tri-Nations tournament, Australia and South Africa became increasingly frustrated with New Zealand's apparent willingness to concede penalties in their own half so as to stop the opposition from scoring tries.

Despite finishing on the wrong end of the penalty count in all six matches, New Zealand had one player yellow carded in the entire tournament while the Wallabies and Springboks each had four players sin-binned.

But while Deans is clearly losing patience with the All Blacks' approach, he provocatively declared karma would eventually catch up with the world's number one ranked team.

"They make good decisions at critical moments and they get away with things as well through their cunning," Deans said of Graham Henry's men.

"But I personally believe that some of their cynicism won't serve them well in the long run.

"They're an experienced bunch, they've had great continuity (a lack of injuries) which we haven't had but I think that will serve us well and I don't think that will serve them well, because they have some points of vulnerability."

Despite having now lost a record 10 straight matches at the hands of the All Blacks, Deans is confident his young side are slowly closing the gap.

"It's very evident that the All Blacks remain the benchmark," he said.

"I guess from a coaching perspective you chase progression, we're getting progression, there's areas of frustration but we believe we're making headway.

"There's a step to take but I think we showed in Sydney, despite a pretty horrific itinerary, that it's actually achievable.

"And in an ironic way it may actually serve us well having come up short. If we'd got up and this young group had thought they were somewhere where they're not then that wouldn't have served us well."

The Wallabies face the All Blacks on October 30 before heading to the northern hemisphere for Tests against Wales, England, Italy and France.

And with only five Tests against Samoa, New Zealand (twice) and South Africa (twice) scheduled in between the Super 15 season and the start of the World Cup next September, Deans says its imperative the five Australian franchises perform in 2011.

"At the end of this year the players will go back into Super 15 and personally I think Super 15 will serve us well because we'll come into the tournament well conditioned to the game," he said.

"Critically we need them to succeed at franchise level, and I think we'll see that."

 

[waratahjesus]

let the hate mail roll.
still staggering to me they got away with one yellow card for the whole comp. at least with everyone talking about it, by the world cup they are going to get blown off the park by the ref.

 

[cyclopath]

No they won't.
They'll adapt, as usual, and find another way.
They have stayed ahead of the game for several years, no reason to think they are about to change.

 

[Ruggo]

Robbie should of been a diplomat with comments like those.

His last comment is very positive.

Reds - On the up and all positive
Tahs - Consistant as usual
Brumbies - Can't be as bad as last year. They will settle down and refind their rythem.
Force - Big potential. Makes you wonder what last year might have been without the injury crisis
Rebels - Experienced side with an experienced coach. They most certainly will not shame themselves

 

[Gnostic]

I didn't want to be the one to highlight this given my vociferous posts on McCaw and the illegal tactics and coached cheating of the ABs on other threads.

Interesting to note that RD has also pointed out what I posted in reply to a number of AB supporters (which got totally lost), that these tactics will not serve them well going forward.

Refs will wrongly or rightly penalise the ABs when they are on the borderling or if the offence committed by an ABs player isn't the first committed. My argument for this is look at the Australian scrum, for three years now it has been refereed on reputation and not on actuality.

Historically you can also see that the ABs in 2003 especially had their cards on the table 12 months out from the RWC and the Wallabies were able to beat them in Sydney and IMO set the foundation for their downfall in the RWC.

 

[Scotty]

No they won't.
They'll adapt, as usual, and find another way.
They have stayed ahead of the game for several years between world cups, no reason to think they are about to change.

Fixed

 

[Scotty]

They do have a home ground advantage for the world cup however, so we may find that the referees don't actually 'catch up' to them.

 

[chief]

There's been too much attention to the All Blacks "cheating". When Wayne Barnes gets the final with NZ in it, then I think we'll see the AB's struggling to keep up with him, who I think was the only ref who reffed the laws correctly in the Tri-Nations. We'll see how far there dubious tactics get them.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Rugby is not just about brute force, it's also a thinking game and nobody is shrewder than the AB's. It has always been thus. We can scream all we like about the way they bend the rules sometimes, but at the end of the day you have to find a way to combat it. I don't think you can rely on the refs to always pick it up.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

There's been too much attention to the All Blacks "cheating". When Wayne Barnes gets the final with NZ in it, then I think we'll see the AB's struggling to keep up with him, who I think was the only ref who reffed the laws correctly in the Tri-Nations. We'll see how far there dubious tactics get them.

I'd like to see that.

There are still plenty of feral Kiwis who haven't got over "that pass" and "that sin bin" from RWC07.

PRICELESS.

 

[Gnostic]

Indeed, the meltdown would rival Chernobyl.

 

[Scarfman]

Every year there's something that beggers belief about the AllBlacks play. This year it was their willingness to pull outrageous infringements in the red zone. They got warning after warning and the refs never went yellow. How do they fucking do it? The fucking aura, I suppose.

In relation to the MaCaw try, I think the real outrage is that the touchie called The Myth on "hands" and Lawrence did nothing about it. After Lawrence saw my video, he said "nothing wrong here", so we can mark him down as a man you wouldn't trust in a chook yard.

 

[RugbyFuture]

well now that robbie deans said it, i realise its happening before i had no clue how they were so good..... (rollseyes)

 

[Scorz]

Hahaha, the finger points away from Robbie and back toward the conspiracy. Sour grapes.

 

[Scorz]

But while Deans is clearly losing patience with the All Blacks' approach

What are ya gonna do Dingo - coach ya team to lose to them again?

 

[fatprop]

While there is no doubt the All Blacks were deserving winners of the recently completed Tri-Nations tournament, Australia and South Africa became increasingly frustrated with New Zealand's apparent willingness to concede penalties in their own half so as to stop the opposition from scoring tries.

I see no problem with this, they were lucky not to get more in the bin

 

[DPK]

I don't think he called them cheats, rather just whined a bit. "This stinks "

 

[Scorz]

And btw Robbie, the team that beat you by 1 point in Sydney - shy of a few guys who were injured. One called DC. Another named Sivivatu. Another named Mealamu...

Some of you lap up his words when it suits and then throw the toys when it doesn't. He's fed you the same bunch of smoke and bullshit on a plate.

 

[chief]

Didn't you hear about our team?

We didn't have TPN, Horwill, Palu, Mitchell, Ioane either :fishing :fishing

By all means it's no excuse for the loss/s, but you really can't compare mate.

 

[Scorz]

Are you going to sit there and type that DC would have made no difference to the winning margin of the Sydney game?