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NSW AAGPS 2025

footinbothcamps

Stan Wickham (3)
The U15 Reds didn't look that strong when I saw them play a few weeks ago. They won, but only just and against a side full of reserve players.
The selectors really need to pay attention to that age group over the next 12 months to make sure they get the team right, and just as importantly they need to actively engage with some of the league players to make sure they want to play for the Waratahs. I know one young fella, an absolute super star in the making, felt it wasn't worth playing. A big call, but he would have been best on field if he played.
The Reds 15's side chosen was a very weak side with a heavy bias to kids attached to League teams. It is with great interest that at the Red Tier 3 academy training last night that kids aligned and signed with NRL clubs have been removed from the Reds Academy.
 

Bob_Jones

Allen Oxlade (6)
They had a lot of their best players on the bench for most of the game and one who didn't play at all.
The U15 Reds didn't look that strong when I saw them play a few weeks ago. They won, but only just and against a side full of reserve players.
The selectors really need to pay attention to that age group over the next 12 months to make sure they get the team right, and just as importantly they need to actively engage with some of the league players to make sure they want to play for the Waratahs. I know one young fella, an absolute super star in the making, felt it wasn't worth playing. A big call, but he would have been best on field if he played.
My observation on the NSW team was that there was an overemphasis on selecting backrowers based on their ball running ability. Many of the backrowers displayed very strong ball running capabilities at Camden and hence stood out to the casual observer. However picking all them in 1 team, when many of those players have obvious deficiencies at set pieces isn't viable at this next level. eg. In game 1, the starting no.8 clearly didn't know how to pack into a scrum. He simply leaned on the back of the scrum like a league scrum.

The other interesting observation re the backs is the idea of do you select talented players regardless or position or at this level do you need to start to consider position specific selections. At one stage, the NSW team had 3 players (all who are very very good) on the field who all play 10 for club / rep (playing 10,12,15) and another 3 (again, who are all very good) who all play 15 for club / rep (playing 11,13,14).
 

Here for the advice

Peter Burge (5)
The U15 Reds didn't look that strong when I saw them play a few weeks ago. They won, but only just and against a side full of reserve players.

My observation on the NSW team was that there was an overemphasis on selecting backrowers based on their ball running ability. Many of the backrowers displayed very strong ball running capabilities at Camden and hence stood out to the casual observer. However picking all them in 1 team, when many of those players have obvious deficiencies at set pieces isn't viable at this next level. eg. In game 1, the starting no.8 clearly didn't know how to pack into a scrum. He simply leaned on the back of the scrum like a league scrum.

The other interesting observation re the backs is the idea of do you select talented players regardless or position or at this level do you need to start to consider position specific selections. At one stage, the NSW team had 3 players (all who are very very good) on the field who all play 10 for club / rep (playing 10,12,15) and another 3 (again, who are all very good) who all play 15 for club / rep (playing 11,13,14).
Great to see in the backs they are picking the players they believe have the talent. You would hope at 15 or 14years old an outside back is not pigeon holed at only a fullback or a certain side winger. Speed, offloads at pace and one on one defence can see any 15 cover 11/13/14. (AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) or Kellaway) I would also expect the clubs have some of their best ball players and game managers at 10 vs other club players at their disposal. NZ has long called 12 second five eight so to have a ball player at 12 is helpful especially if you have 3 running back rowers to link with. Plenty of talented players have developed into their positions over time.
 

Mule

Ted Fahey (11)
One trend that has been prevalent of late, starts early and has huge implications in the future tho; rep selectors picking kids who haven’t/don’t want to play front row in the hope they can be “coached up” and will grow….
 

OleMan

Stan Wickham (3)
The U15 Reds didn't look that strong when I saw them play a few weeks ago. They won, but only just and against a side full of reserve players.

My observation on the NSW team was that there was an overemphasis on selecting backrowers based on their ball running ability. Many of the backrowers displayed very strong ball running capabilities at Camden and hence stood out to the casual observer. However picking all them in 1 team, when many of those players have obvious deficiencies at set pieces isn't viable at this next level. eg. In game 1, the starting no.8 clearly didn't know how to pack into a scrum. He simply leaned on the back of the scrum like a league scrum.

The other interesting observation re the backs is the idea of do you select talented players regardless or position or at this level do you need to start to consider position specific selections. At one stage, the NSW team had 3 players (all who are very very good) on the field who all play 10 for club / rep (playing 10,12,15) and another 3 (again, who are all very good) who all play 15 for club / rep (playing 11,13,14).
I somewhat agree with you on the backrowers, it's all well and good to have a couple of ball runners but there needs to be workhorses in the pack 'doing their shitters' which was lacking, and in my opinion is lacking all the way up to the Wallabies. I blame league ;).
They did have a 7 who was 'Mr Everywhere' very quick around the paddock, but unfortunately just ineffective.
In my opinion Cooper from Bathurst showed he was the best all round backrower.

I can remember who was the starting 8, but I do agree there were a lot of quality players, playing out of position, which could have been why the #8 didn't know how to pack in. Unless it was the big fella Cordell, then yes I agree 100%.

Wilson, Finn & Payton are all quality 10's and great footballers who deserved to be there, but as you said they all cant play 10 at the same time so where do you play them and who do you leave out.
Cant remember if Charlie played #12 or #13,
who unfortunately I think is playing union for a bit of extra training and is destined for league.
Asher was a standout on the wing. Julian had a very quiet game and I've seen him play much better than he did against the Reds. Not sure why Isaac wasnt playing, another quality fullback. I know he had a broken nose but he played the first game with it broken.
For me the biggest omission was a young bloke called Bailey Logue, who in my opinion is the best full back in the comp. The sad thing is he was selected to play in the Next Gen comp but decided not play. Not sure why but this young bloke needs a huge sales pitch on Union because you can bet the NRL is on the phone to him every week.

There were only 3 players that stood out to me, Isaac at #9 was superb, Wilson at #10 and Asher on the wing.
 

Greg Kern

Frank Row (1)
Evening everyone, Here from the QLD GPS Rugby forum. With the ongoing debate on what competition produces the best footy palyers. Who of youw ould be in support of a potential winner of GPS vs AAGPS fixture? Could be a neutral venue? Although so schools from states would host great cross over matches e.g. Ross Oval at Nudgee College. Thoughts?
 

Rudderless

Trevor Allan (34)
From what I understand, players were advised on Wednesday, but I’m not sure when or where a team will be announced. Would love to see the team though if anyone has any info.
I believe the squad’s focus is on this tournament next month in NZ.


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twister29

Stan Wickham (3)
One trend that has been prevalent of late, starts early and has huge implications in the future tho; rep selectors picking kids who haven’t/don’t want to play front row in the hope they can be “coached up” and will grow….
Dependence on the coaching staff over player ability. Unfortunately I see this as a major fallibility of team development in recent years that heavily influences the tournamental climate...
 

fortheloveofthegame

Bob McCowan (2)
How many schools have started preseason? Clearly, at this premature stage, Joeys and Kings start as favourites, View as dark horses. What are the secret weapons for each school? Who will the selection bolters be? Thought it would be nice to turn attention back to AAGPS rugby rather than trivial U15 selection drama (coz that’s never happened before).
 

Squidlips

Frank Nicholson (4)
How many schools have started preseason? Clearly, at this premature stage, Joeys and Kings start as favourites, View as dark horses. What are the secret weapons for each school? Who will the selection bolters be? Thought it would be nice to turn attention back to AAGPS rugby rather than trivial U15 selection drama (coz that’s never happened before).
Schools can preseason all they want before Christmas. The reality is the boys are going to have 4 weeks off over Christmas which will disrupt any gains made over the next couple of weeks.

Interestingly the clubs are reaching out to the boys to do sessions with them over the school holiday period. Maybe that happens every year and I didn't know.
 

fortheloveofthegame

Bob McCowan (2)
Schools can preseason all they want before Christmas. The reality is the boys are going to have 4 weeks off over Christmas which will disrupt any gains made over the next couple of weeks.

Interestingly the clubs are reaching out to the boys to do sessions with them over the school holiday period. Maybe that happens every year and I didn't know.
That happens every year
 
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