Munster v. Australia
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Phil Hardcastle (33)
The forwards weren't actually bad I thought, and had terrific defence to continually keep Munster from scoring at the try line, however that is probably the worst backs performance I've ever seen by Australia - and all because of Barnes. They never had a chance to get going because he either spilled it, kicked it directly to their 15 or threw a direction-less short ball to people in worse positions than him. Honestly, he's making Giteau look good. Isn't Barnes meant to be the steady-hand that you need for these types of games?
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Johnnie Wallace (23)
cmon there wasnt one decent lineout in the 2nd half. all they did was hit it up with no chance of getting into Munster's half. That was a spineless performance, we are a top 5 laughing stock.
If some players are not stamped with "never to tour again" I'll stop supporting this team.
If some players are not stamped with "never to tour again" I'll stop supporting this team.
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Jimmy Flynn (14)
What an absolute disgrace. If ever we needed an indicator that Elite Aussie rugby players have no 'grounding' in the game we just witnessed it. The pure disrespect those pathetic pack of wa..kers just showed the jersey is unpalatable to say the least. Each one of those c..ts should be made to walk in the cold rain back to the hotel in Limerick. I wouldn't waste the fuel in the bus to transport them. All in all, they just don't 'get it'. You can't pick and chose when you want to be passionate about playing rugby at this level. The only think this tour has shown me has been just how f..ked in the head these guys are as a result of the shithouse pathway system we have in Australia where 17 yr olds are taken in academy systems where all they learn is how to wear a herringbone dress shirt and how to hang around night clubs chasing skirt.
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Bricey Lawrence "the pee in my whissle has gon" :angryfire:
George Hook "worst Australian team I've ever seen" :thumb
George Hook "worst Australian team I've ever seen" :thumb
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Like your work.
Langthorne
Phil Hardcastle (33)
I just watched the match courtesy of the appropriately named broadcaster "House of Pain". The picture was jerky and patchy, but you take what you can get.
The conditions were pretty vile, exceeded in vileness only by the Wallaby performance.
It started OK, and deteriorated throughout.
The passing, catching, kicking...the list goes on....was some of the worse I can recall from an Australian team. The tackling was better than against England, but the result was the same - a loss for the Wallabies, but this time against the Munster B team.
Some lowlights:
- an amazing number of dropped passes.
- kicks from Munster too often allowed to bounce (randomly)
- TWO yellow cards (one for A Fainga'a in the first half, one for Daley at the end of the Second)
-TPN returned just before the 60th minute and missed many (all?) of his lineout throws. (he did put in a couple of big tackles, and the scrum looked solid with him on...although it was OK before he came on too)
-very poor tactics for playing in high wind and rain (don't kick into the gale force wind unless it is absolutely necessary, for instance)
-Barnes
Well done Munster - they turned up, played the conditions well, but mostly just threw themselves into their task and executed the basics much better than the Wallabies.
Munster win 15 (3 pens 2 FGs Warwick)-6 (2 pens Barnes)
I'm going to think about some positives to draw from the match.
The conditions were pretty vile, exceeded in vileness only by the Wallaby performance.
It started OK, and deteriorated throughout.
The passing, catching, kicking...the list goes on....was some of the worse I can recall from an Australian team. The tackling was better than against England, but the result was the same - a loss for the Wallabies, but this time against the Munster B team.
Some lowlights:
- an amazing number of dropped passes.
- kicks from Munster too often allowed to bounce (randomly)
- TWO yellow cards (one for A Fainga'a in the first half, one for Daley at the end of the Second)
-TPN returned just before the 60th minute and missed many (all?) of his lineout throws. (he did put in a couple of big tackles, and the scrum looked solid with him on...although it was OK before he came on too)
-very poor tactics for playing in high wind and rain (don't kick into the gale force wind unless it is absolutely necessary, for instance)
-Barnes
Well done Munster - they turned up, played the conditions well, but mostly just threw themselves into their task and executed the basics much better than the Wallabies.
Munster win 15 (3 pens 2 FGs Warwick)-6 (2 pens Barnes)
I'm going to think about some positives to draw from the match.
grievous
Johnnie Wallace (23)
No but they played such inept game and conditions so poor that some players just didnt have a chance to.
Players that should get their boarding passes tonight
Brown
Fainga'a x 2
Davies
Hodges
Barnes but that wont happen
Burgess but that wont happen
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Rothschild
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Moz, Hynes and Daly are part of the homeward bound group after this schemozzle.
After being an advocate for allowing hime to do his job, it now is clear that Dearns is so far out of his depth he is now guessing and our Wallabies are going backwards really fast.
As I said before on another thread, our wins against the AB's and bokkes this wear were against the run of performance.
We have not shown any real game ascendancy and until we expect to win games on a par with NZ we are nothings.
At this rate we may not even make the WC semis.
After being an advocate for allowing hime to do his job, it now is clear that Dearns is so far out of his depth he is now guessing and our Wallabies are going backwards really fast.
As I said before on another thread, our wins against the AB's and bokkes this wear were against the run of performance.
We have not shown any real game ascendancy and until we expect to win games on a par with NZ we are nothings.
At this rate we may not even make the WC semis.
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Jimmy Flynn (14)
Langthorne
Phil Hardcastle (33)
Nobody was outstandingly good, that is for sure. I guess it is fair to say that the forwards were generally solid without being excellent - the set peice was reliable* (to the extent that defensive 5 mtr scrums were solid, and there was at least one tight head I can remember), the tackilng was ok, they were quite good at stopping the Munster maul (but did pull it down a couple of times and rightly get pinged), they were adequate at best at the breakdown (often retaining possession, but not dominating, thereby delivering poor ball, or not getting quick ball/drive/recycle).
Hang on, I was looking for positives...definitely not the backs. Burgess started out very lively but there were too many wild passes (but not as many as he has produced in the past). Barnes managed to cement Giteau's position as starting 12 against Italy (his defence was OK I guess). The rest of the backs barely got a chance with the ball (and as mentioned above, they did not deal with the high ball well, nor did they excel with kick returns). Phipps looked OK when he came on.
McCutcheon was lively again whe he came on, although not amazing. Mumm moved to 6 when Van Humphries came on late, and was a bit slow to get off the scrum when needed in defence.....hmmm - good but not great forward play is probably the best I could say.
*except TPN threw pies all night. I can't remember us winning even one of our own throws with him on.
Hang on, I was looking for positives...definitely not the backs. Burgess started out very lively but there were too many wild passes (but not as many as he has produced in the past). Barnes managed to cement Giteau's position as starting 12 against Italy (his defence was OK I guess). The rest of the backs barely got a chance with the ball (and as mentioned above, they did not deal with the high ball well, nor did they excel with kick returns). Phipps looked OK when he came on.
McCutcheon was lively again whe he came on, although not amazing. Mumm moved to 6 when Van Humphries came on late, and was a bit slow to get off the scrum when needed in defence.....hmmm - good but not great forward play is probably the best I could say.
*except TPN threw pies all night. I can't remember us winning even one of our own throws with him on.
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Jimmy Flynn (14)
Lads the conditions were the same for both sides and Munster actually played quite a bit of rugby. I find it very hard to swallow any excuses for the Wallabies. Jesus, imagine if Shiteau had been out there as well??!? It all comes down to attitude. Mental toughness. All the stuff that you have been hearing Deans alluding to in his press conferences. These blokes just don't have it. As I said above. The system has failed them. There just isn't a pathway for our blokes that spits them out the other end as hardened footballers. Put them out there in conditions they are not used to and they fold faster then Superman on laundry day.
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John Solomon (38)
Heres how Isaw it - I only watched the first 60. The scrum was good, the lineout inconsistent but the conditions were ordinary and the only sure throw was short and flat. We competed at the breakdown ...... ok. The backs - well Burgess and Barnes esp got in the way of any real structure, and I think are largely responsible for comments here.
A couple of players I noticed in a positive way:
Daley - played well, strong in scrum and out
Fainga'a A - solid, a couple of strong runs, great defense, incomprehensibly penalised, minimal opportunities in possession
Morahan - I don't think he touched the ball, but showed incumbents how to defend when he cut off a Munster attack/overlap.
Turner - tried hard with minimal opportunity
You can tell I'm scratching.
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we were robbed of what could have been a famous Munster victory (given the conditions) but the shine was seriously taken off it by a dismal Wallabies performance. I just hope that it wasn't down to a lack of respect for what munster represents to us.
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