LOTE Sacked

[Cutter]

Unreliable tip off so being a bit cautious about what I say...

This has to do with an incident after the Barbarians game. Likely police investigation.

Mods if I've said too much feel free to delete.

 

[RugbyReg]

Unreliable tip off so being a bit cautious about what I say...

This has to do with an incident after the Barbarians game. Likely police investigation.

Mods if I've said too much feel free to delete.

pfft we'll ban you if you don't tell more!!!!

 

[Cutter]

Unreliable tip off so being a bit cautious about what I say...

This has to do with an incident after the Barbarians game. Likely police investigation.

Mods if I've said too much feel free to delete.

pfft we'll ban you if you don't tell more!!!!

The original tip off fp quoted mentioned things more associated with league. Mine is similar.

 

[RugbyReg]

Oh then I really feel for his family.

 

[Pfitzy]

Even if Lote could argue the point about a "minor" breach, would you really like to work for a bloke out to get you? Not saying the ARU is wrong, but just that you're on a last warning - better to jump. League would still have him. Or French Union maybe.

 

[Reddy!]

Unreliable tip off so being a bit cautious about what I say...

This has to do with an incident after the Barbarians game. Likely police investigation.

Mods if I've said too much feel free to delete.

pfft we'll ban you if you don't tell more!!!!

The original tip off fp quoted mentioned things more associated with league. Mine is similar.

I have had a similar "tip off": could be a similar incident to the Brett Stewart debacle eariler this year (This could be completely wrong of course so I stand to be corrected.)

 

[mark_s]

Is he still eligible to play for West Harbour?

I always had a feeling his big $ contract would end in tears one way or the other.

 

[RugbyReg]

Tuqiri to fight ARU sacking July 1, 2009 - 6:40PM Lote Tuqiri has engaged lawyers and will launch immediate legal action against the Australian Rugby Union following the shock termination of his lucrative contract.Tuqiri's agent Les Ross confirmed the former Wallabies winger would fight his sacking, which was announced late on Wednesday by an ARU email."All I can tell you is that Lote disputes that the ARU are entitled to terminate his contract and he has retained solicitor Mr Mark O'Brien and Mr Tony Marr, senior counsel, to immediately commence proceedings against the ARU," Ross told AAP.Mystery surrounds the reason for Tuqiri's dismissal, but the ARU had been conducting an investigation into a possible breach of the players' code of conduct.The ARU statement read: "The employment contract of Lote Tuqiri has been terminated effective today."ARU has treated this issue as a standard employment matter."The ARU will not make any further comment on the matter as it may be the subject of legal proceedings."It is understood the "legal proceedings" referred to are Tuqiri's action against the ARU and the winger has not broken the law.It is also understood Tuqiri's absence from Australia's first four international matches this year was not related to the reason for his sacking.One of Australia's highest paid rugby players, Tuqiri was contracted to the ARU until 2012.He was signed to a massive deal in 2007 as the ARU regime of Gary Flowers fought off an offer from NRL club South Sydney.Speculation about the ARU investigation had pointed to a late night visit to the Crown Casino in Melbourne in the lead-up to last month's Test against Italy, which also reportedly involved backs Adam Ashley-Cooper and Peter Hynes.An internet report had also suggested four high-profile rugby players were involved in a serious off-field incident.Another report said Tuqiri had been issued with a "final warning letter" after a late-night drinking session with Wallabies teammates in 2007.An ARU spokesman refused to comment further but the body's chief executive John O'Neill will front the media when the Wallabies Tri-Nations squad is announced on Thursday.A spokesman for Tuqiri's Super 14 team, the NSW Waratahs, said the franchise would be making no comment as the matter related to an ARU investigation.Rugby Union Players Association boss Tony Dempsey was unaware of the situation when contacted by AAP."It certainly comes as a surprise," he said."We always represent our members, we always look to provide them with advice and we always ensure that all dealings are fair and reasonable."Tuqiri, 29, has a far from squeaky clean off-field record since switching to union from NRL club Brisbane in 2003.In 2005 he was involved in the infamous "ice-throwing" incident in Cape Town which resulted in Matt Henjak being sent home.Tuqiri was fined $500 and given a suspended two-match ban following the incident.He was sent home from a Wallabies training camp in January 2007 for failing a fitness test and months later apologised to teammate Sam Norton-Knight for shoving him and giving him a verbal spray during a match for NSW.Later that year, he apologised to Wallabies selector Michael O'Connor for putting a conversation on speaker-phone as O'Connor was being critical of Waratahs teammate Peter Hewat.And in July 2007 he was banned for two matches and fined $20,000 for failing to attend a team medical and registering an alcohol reading at a team breath test.Speculation arose that the 67-Test veteran may consider a move back to rugby league when he was left out of Australia's first four internationals of 2009, with Lachie Turner, Drew Mitchell and Hynes all preferred on the wings.But Tuqiri denied he would quit rugby in his newspaper column last weekend, and would earn considerably less in the 13-man game.The Gold Coast Titans have already expressed an interest in Tuqiri, while rebuilding Cronulla and St George Illawarra, the home of former clubmates Wendell Sailor and coach Wayne Bennett could also hold appeal.

 

[naza]

This might just be the happiest day of my life this year. I love it !

Good riddance you useless egotistical crabbing sideways 'not getting enough touches' c.unt !!!

 

[Blue]

They'll be wetting themselves on the Footy show tomorrow night. It's almost worth watching for the chuckle factor.

 

[barbarian]

Lote launching legal action suggests the 'police investigation' rumours are false. If he did something serious I don't think he'd be arguing technicalities. Not until the investigation is finished anyway. Saying that, when was the last time someone's contract was torn up mid-season? Something must be up.

If it's the night at the casino then that is terribly harsh. He wasn't even in the team for christ's sake. Maybe that is why he is so keen to take it to court. It is all speculation though, I suppose.

 

[naza]

Lote launching legal action suggests the 'police investigation' rumours are false. If he did something serious I don't think he'd be arguing technicalities. Not until the investigation is finished anyway. Saying that, when was the last time someone's contract was torn up mid-season? Something must be up.

Gee, could it be that he's an astonishingly shithouse player who performs like shit, is a shit, treats the game like shit, has a shit attitude, and is the shittiest shit in shitsville ?

There is no conspiracy. The ARU cannot afford to pay $1mill + for a bloke who barely cuts it in 1st grade club rugby. He is deadset rubbish. The only shock is that it took so long for the ARU to wake up to the facts.

 

[Moses]

Day after Jun 30 deadline for league contracts - classic. Means he can't slot straight back into the Broncos. French lessons beckon.

 

[Cutter]

I suspect that if JON was the CEO during the Lote negotiations they may have gone a little differently. Looking back, the Flowers era wasnt a great one for the ARU or Australian rugby. I dont point all the blame at him, but he is responsible for some of it.

 

[naza]

I suspect that if JON was the CEO during the Lote negotiations they may have gone a little differently. Looking back, the Flowers era wasnt a great one for the ARU or Australian rugby. I dont point all the blame at him, but he is responsible for some of it.

Build a bridge and get the fuck over it.

The real problem is people like you who still hold Eddie Jones responsible for a loss 5 years after he fucking coached the Wallabies.

Who targetted the mungoes ? JON. Who ramped up salaries ? JON. Who obliterated the only competition that was bringing through young talent ? JON.

 

[Thomond78]

Lote launching legal action suggests the 'police investigation' rumours are false. If he did something serious I don't think he'd be arguing technicalities. Not until the investigation is finished anyway. Saying that, when was the last time someone's contract was torn up mid-season? Something must be up.

Gee, could it be that he's an astonishingly shithouse player who performs like shit, is a shit, treats the game like shit, has a shit attitude, and is the shittiest shit in shitsville ?

There is no conspiracy. The ARU cannot afford to pay $1mill + for a bloke who barely cuts it in 1st grade club rugby. He is Golly gosh! rubbish. The only shock is that it took so long for the ARU to wake up to the facts.

Okay, who hid Naza's meds? Cutter? Spook...?

 

[Gagger]

1. The ARU's budgets are in tatters: head office has slashed heads and even the ARU top brass have taken a paycut this year. JO'N is looking for ways to make less money go further.

2. Lote's paid 4 times as much as guys being selected over him on form. He would appear to have become an expensive overhead surplus to requirements

3. Lote is on a written warning from past indiscretions

4. Lote does something, anything, no matter how minor transgressing that warning (e.g. out past 12 at a Casino on a school night)

5. JO'N deliberates for all of 5 seconds and KABLAM

 

[Groucho]

That's right Gagger. Businesses do that, and rugby has to be run like a business to survive in these hard times. And neither should there be any sacred cows in sport either. I do find the open hatred for him distressing though. Rugby is changing for the worse when Wallabies are openly called c*nts and worse by graceless so-called fans of the game.

 

[Cutter]

I suspect that if JON was the CEO during the Lote negotiations they may have gone a little differently. Looking back, the Flowers era wasnt a great one for the ARU or Australian rugby. I dont point all the blame at him, but he is responsible for some of it.

Build a bridge and get the fuck over it.

The real problem is people like you who still hold Eddie Jones responsible for a loss 5 years after he fucking coached the Wallabies.

Who targetted the mungoes ? JON. Who ramped up salaries ? JON. Who obliterated the only competition that was bringing through young talent ? JON.

Easy tiger. I'm not blaming fast Eddie for anything.

No one is foolish enough to argue that EJ (Eddie Jones) is without fault. However, I liked some parts of his coaching and am on the record as saying so. In particular, during the EJ (Eddie Jones) era our moves off set piece ball were brilliant and I think he was responsible for a vast improvement in the Boks while he was helping.

My point about negotiating is that JON plays it tough. We're all disappointed the ARC didnt last but that was a financial decision not because JON didnt like it.

I'm not sure JON is wholly resonsible for ramping up salaries. I would blame that on the magical "market". As to whether JON paid more than others did before him, I suspect each succeeding CEO will have done that. Things may change a bit now though (because of the GFC not for any other reason).

 

[Cutter]

1. The ARU's budgets are in tatters: head office has slashed heads and even the ARU top brass have taken a paycut this year. JO'N is looking for ways to make less money go further.

2. Lote's paid 4 times as much as guys being selected over him on form. He would appear to have become an expensive overhead surplus to requirements

3. Lote is on a written warning from past indiscretions

4. Lote does something, anything, no matter how minor transgressing that warning (e.g. out past 12 at a Casino on a school night)

5. JO'N deliberates for all of 5 seconds and KABLAM

Its not out of the question that this is the reason, but if so, why hasnt Lote come out and said something to defend himself? eg yes I breached player protocols but I havent done anything more serious than that and bla bla bla...

Surely his lawyers can word a statement which protects his reputation without jeopardising any legal proceedings.