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Kurtley Beale at school

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Moses

Simon Poidevin (60)
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Some great footage of Joeys vs Kings, unfortunately let down by Ray Martin and his hair hat

[video=youtube;MVQtVHeZseY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVQtVHeZseY[/video]
 
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chief

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Can we make the thread icon Australia? I'd like to more claim him as Australian RU Player then a New South Wales player. Almost will make me forget who he plays for!
 

Moses

Simon Poidevin (60)
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Just wondering can you guys educate me on the Indigenous situation atm in Aus,
That's a huge topic, we've currently got prohibition in many areas, the army in the NT and many shonky government schemes to "close the gap". Hard to tell how effective it is from Sydney, but Kev did say "sorry" a few years ago.
 

Bruce Ross

Ken Catchpole (46)
Just wondering can you guys educate me on the Indigenous situation atm in Aus,

That's a huge topic, we've currently got prohibition in many areas, the army in the NT and many shonky government schemes to "close the gap". Hard to tell how effective it is from Sydney, but Kev did say "sorry" a few years ago.

Isn't it a disgrace that those are the things that immediately come to mind on this situation, Moses? We should hang our heads in collective shame.
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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Let's not start that here Bruce.

The indigenous situation in terms of rugby is confined to the few who receive scholarships to rugby-playing private schools or happen to play for Western based clubs. AFL and League are by far the biggest games in the indigenous community, and Rugby has very little penetration.
 

Bruce Ross

Ken Catchpole (46)
Let's not start that here Bruce.

The indigenous situation in terms of rugby is confined to the few who receive scholarships to rugby-playing private schools or happen to play for Western based clubs. AFL and League are by far the biggest games in the indigenous community, and Rugby has very little penetration.

Why not, barbarian? The Dobber asked a specific question about "the Indigenous situation atm in Aus" to which Moses made a short, and in my opinion, appropriate response. In turn I made a two sentence comment.

None of us were talking about "the indigenous situation in terms of rugby", but rather the overall situation.
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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I wasn't suggesting anything said so far was innapropriate Bruce. But I think we have now answered the question and this is a rugby discussion board so I figure we should stick to that. If you want to have further political discussions I will move this thread to the politics board.
 

Bruce Ross

Ken Catchpole (46)
I wasn't suggesting anything said so far was innapropriate Bruce. But I think we have now answered the question and this is a rugby discussion board so I figure we should stick to that. If you want to have further political discussions I will move this thread to the politics board.

Point taken.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
Just wondering can you guys educate me on the Indigenous situation atm in Aus,

I trust that you are referring to the rugby situation :) .

There is a national indigenous rugby program with a few stakeholders in it.

In U/16s they have 6 regional NI teams picked from boys identified for the programme provided a state or territory team doesn't need them. These regional NI teams play in a national NI tournament and a team is selected for the Oz U/16 tournament.

They don't compete with the main teams. They play in a round robin against teams from Tassie, SA and the NT and they usually win it.


It's a bit different in Opens. The NI team competes in the Div II tournament which is held in Geelong before the National Opens tournament. Other teams in the Div II tournament are Tassie, SA, NT and Twos teams from WA and Vic.

Out of that a Combined States team is picked and that team plays in the National Open tournament.
 

Groucho

Greg Davis (50)
Let's not start that here Bruce.

The indigenous situation in terms of rugby is confined to the few who receive scholarships to rugby-playing private schools or happen to play for Western based clubs. AFL and League are by far the biggest games in the indigenous community, and Rugby has very little penetration.

There's quite a bit more than that. We have the Australian Under 16 and Under 18 Indigenous teams, indigenous teams in the Australian Schools Division 2 Championships, and women supported in the National Women's Championship, all underpinned by the Lloyd McDermott Rugby Development Team (LMRDT). That may not sound like so much but it's a big logistical effort, conducted in every state.
 

S120

Chris McKivat (8)
I can remember watching Kurtley as a 14/15 yo al Weigall (I'm a Grammar boy) in his last year and it was just brutality. He scored about 5 tries himself and set up 4 or 5 others. And that sort of running dynamism is what we're starting to see now at Test level.
 

Jethro Tah

Bob Loudon (25)
Also under the LMRDT is Ella Sevens, which is an annual one day 7s rugby tournament held in Coffs Harbour involving 24 indigenous teams from all over the country. It is reported that Deans and O'Connor are known to show up at these events.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
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I was at that game at Grammar and the parents who hadn't seen him before were gobsmacked. Actually it was in 2005 and he still had another year to go at school.

KB (Kurtley Beale) had a few similar virtuoso performances in his 3 years in the Joeys Ones, but the one at Weigall in 2005 was the best of them all. I haven't seen a schoolboy play a game as good as that, not even Goldie Wilson.

People are ooohing and aaahing about what he is doing currently for the Wallabies but we Joeys tragics had seen it all before. There's a bit more to see too.
 
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