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Knives out for JO'N

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Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
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From Rugbyheaven

It's too much for a game to bear

Josh Rakic | October 25, 2009

AMID a sports administrator's nightmare scenario of plummeting television ratings, poor attendance figures, a demise in public interest and a struggling national team, the Australian Rugby Union is also believed to be battling to retain its $6 million-a-year sponsorship with Bundaberg Rum.

Over the past two seasons the Robbie Deans-coached Wallabies have recorded a disappointing 56.5 per cent win ratio, and it is having an impact on the corporate world's ability to support sports teams. The Sun-Herald understands Ford and Vodafone - neither of which returned calls - have already declared their intent to cease their sponsorships of the Wallabies.

While Bundaberg Rum marketing manager Andrew Hewson was reluctant to speak with The Sun-Herald, he sent a press statement issued by his media department. This refused to confirm the brand's commitment to the ARU beyond 2010, following the conclusion of its current five-year deal.

''It is too early to comment on a sponsorship agreement beyond this time but as a matter of practice we continually review the impact, value and performance of all of our sponsorships,'' the statement read.

The financial impact of the global recession withstanding, a Sun-Herald investigation would suggest the ARU faces a tough task of convincing Bundaberg to remain in the ''family''.

In 2008, the Super 14 held just one spot in the top 100 viewed pay TV shows, while only four Tests made the cut. The good news is that one of the Wallabies' Tests in 2008 was the highest-rating show on pay TV.

The bad news is this year's highest-rating Bledisloe Cup match, on free-to-air, attracted 521,000 viewers while May's rugby league Anzac Test drew 917,000.

The highest-rating 2008 Bledisloe Cup Test achieved 727,000 on Channel Seven, a massive 206,000 more than 2009. Both were out-ranked considerably by the ARL Kangaroos Tests.

The news does not get any better, with NRL match attendances climbing an average of 300 people since 2007, while Super rugby has lost an average of 1300 per game.

Statistics show the average NRL TV audience of 532,000 a game outshone the highest-rating free-to-air Bledisloe Cup match by 11,000 viewers.

Former Queensland Reds CEO Peter Lewis blames the demise on ''unattractive'' rugby and warns that unless the administration implements improvements soon, rugby could fall further by the wayside.

''The current style of football is just downright boring,'' Lewis said. ''Rugby needs to be more adventurous with its rules because we've got some fantastic athletes in back lines all over the country and world, but how often do you see them running?

''And if the product's no good, you can do all the advertising and promotion you like and it won't mean a thing. And the product isn't very appealing at the moment.

''Free-to-air television doesn't want us, so the first thing we need to do is improve the quality of the offering and then we need to build the profile again.

''We made the final of the World Cup in 2003 and the popularity just seems to have drifted ever since.''

Former Wallaby Dick Marks, who has been connected with the top end of the game for 50 years in playing, coaching, administrating, selecting and broadcasting, and who was involved in drafting the IRB's ''Charter of the Game'', said the administration was as much to blame for the waning interest as the product itself.

He said the cancellation of the Australian Rugby Championship after one season was a disgrace.

''CEO John O'Neill went to soccer and had a national competition going in a little over a year but he's had one on the rugby books for many years but still can't or won't deliver one,'' Marks said.

''The annoying impression of this administration is that unless it thinks of an idea or it appoints reviewers of its own choice, then its first inclination is to cancel them. Good examples of this were the cancellation of the much-needed third-tier competition as endorsed by a recent meeting of the Super 14 coaches.''

Marks said the public and rugby community's confidence in the ARU had deteriorated significantly in recent years, particularly in the past few years.

''It has let its 'national coaching plan' deteriorate to a point where it has to go offshore to find a coach for its national team and it relentlessly drove the law changes that have produced a game that has induced falling crowds,'' Marks said.

''It has become so sensitive to criticism that twice this year the chairman of the board [Peter McGrath] has rushed to print with arguments against newspapers and/or journalists. It publicly lectures writers about the wrongs of 'playing the man instead of the ball' and then authorises its CEO to publish a book in which he sinks the boot into a host of current or former officials.

''It has attracted a lot of criticism for its attention to spin. And under its code of conduct Eddie Jones gets fined $10,000 for saying a harsh word about a referee but the CEO can have a go at current NSW directors, former ARU chairmen and presidents with no immunity for anyone - double standards?

''In all, it has got its own position right out of whack. It has a habit of adopting the practice of 'Do as I say, not as I do'.''

Coach Robbie Deans's reported hauling over the coals by the ARU last week for criticising the lack of a strong domestic competition in Australia would offer weight to Marks's comments.

O'Neill has also publicly fallen out with the Rugby Union Players' Association and several high-profile players in recent times, including Stirling Mortlock, Phil Waugh and Matt Giteau since Lote Tuqiri's mystery sacking three months ago.

It has been reported that Giteau has said privately he cannot wait until the 2011 World Cup is over so he can break free of the ARU.

Former Wallabies coach John Connolly, who was replaced by Deans despite his 64 per cent winning percentage, former CEO Gary Flowers and at least three print journalists have been issued with letters warning of legal action from O'Neill.

The ARU administration has also had much-publicised fallouts with the Players' Association, the Reds, NSW Rugby and Victoria Rugby Union this season.

While even his critics agree O'Neill and his team have a more difficult task than their international counterparts - saying that Australian sports fans are far more fickle than those of their rivals - they also suggested the administration was not doing the game any favours by ostracising fan favourites such as Waugh, Al Baxter, Tuqiri and Mortlock.

Meanwhile, Lewis said players were as much to blame as the administration for the current state of the game, which even O'Neill conceded last week was not ''travelling all that well'' .

''If there is unrest or what have you, then get over it,'' Lewis said.

''If you want to be paid like a professional, be one. They need to concentrate and focus, get behind their leadership and just do it.

''I don't begrudge people making good money but on a per-game basis a lot of our blokes are ridiculously overpaid compared to all three of the other codes.

''It's just all out of whack compared to the success of the sport. As John O'Neill was quoted as saying, 'Australian rugby has a lack of heroes, but they're certainly being paid like superstars'.''

As context, it was Dick Marks that Leo Williams had JO'N sack as one of his first CEO duties back in the late 90's. Marks has never got over it and obviously sees now as a good time to get some vengeance.

Interesting they've drafted a Mungo writer to drop this turd.
 
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Spook

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Some valid points in there though. This is going to be unpopular but Oz should seriously try and sign Inglis and Slater in order to spark some interest. Whatever you say about Tuquiri (Rogers and Sailor as well), he made more people watch the Wobblies.
 

louie

Desmond Connor (43)
no way spook.
they key to being popular in Australia is to start winning.
look at the socceroos. no one gave a fuck about them until they got into the world cup then started doing well.
the problem at a super14 level is that the Australia public like seeing Australia teams play each other. Mate vs Mate crap.
 
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chief

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Dick Marks really knows where its at. A top bloke, and I'm all for getting rid of JO'N. We need someone who can establish better relationships with Tony Dempsey. Even though Dempsey is a bigger twat then JO'N. The Wallabies match fees need to be lower, the ARC must be bought back, just needs more of a realistic approach to it, Free to air Super 14 is a must.
 

waratahjesus

Greg Davis (50)
chief said:
Dick Marks really knows where its at. A top bloke, and I'm all for getting rid of JO'N. We need someone who can establish better relationships with Tony Dempsey. Even though Dempsey is a bigger twat then JO'N. The Wallabies match fees need to be lower, the ARC must be bought back, just needs more of a realistic approach to it, Free to air Super 14 is a must.

considering the game only really makes money from the news ltd tv rights, free to air super 14 is a pipe dream. ARC isnt the be all and end all people seem to think it is. if they fixed the academy sides so they actually got match time and fitness there wouldnt be a problem. i loved going to watch the fleet but fact is, an ARC is always going to be a huge investment that is never going to brake even if your trying to make players semi professional in what was rightfully called a third tier.

Dempseys relationship with the ARU isnt a problem at all, in fact i would go as far as to say, having a players union and ARU not in agreement would be better for our players as both sides would be compromising to achieve the best for both sides.

the John Oneil hate is a funny thing, without him the ARU was going broke, now he is back, he cant do any right despite getting the financial side back on track and indicating that AUS A will come back as soon as finaces settle down and they will look at an ARC type competitin in coming years. i for one couldnt give a shit if the players or fellow officials hate him, cos i know when he goes into a sanzar meeting or an IRb one for that matter we have the best chance out of any official in aus to get what we want and in the long run, that means he is the best man for the job currently!
 

Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
JON's side of it.

http://www.rugbyheaven.com.au/news/news/no-shortterm-fix/2009/10/24/1256147922802.html

ARU chief executive John O'Neill speaks to The Sun-Herald about his plans to save a struggling game.

Sun-Herald: Define the state of rugby in Australia.

John O'Neill: We're not where we'd like to be but we are gaining a lot of collective support to solve what are collective problems across the game. We are not sticking our heads in the sand, we are not delusional; we are realists. We are facing significant challenges and I said that from the time I returned. Another reality is that when I left after the 2003 Rugby World Cup, ARU had $38 million in reserves. When I returned there was $15 million. Our first assignment was to stop further erosion of those reserves and we achieved that in 2008.

SH: What is the plan to fix rugby's problems?

JO: On the financial front, ARU has cut its cloth accordingly and brought down expenditure across all departments. The global financial crisis has affected many sports and businesses. In terms of crowds and television ratings, on-field performances have a significant impact. Last year, after Robbie Deans came in as coach, the Wallabies were still a chance of winning the Tri Nations title heading into the last game of the domestic season. Coincident to that, our average Test crowds in 2008 were the best since 2003. Confusion and even disenchantment with some of the laws is also a factor. It must be remembered we, the ARU, are part of a global game and as such the laws are not ours to change despite our recent best attempts. This is a political reality. As for ''negative rugby'', that has been levelled against the game in general not the Wallabies in particular. However, all these areas concern Australian rugby as a whole. This is not just about ARU and the Wallabies. Clearly a successful Wallabies side is immensely helpful but each of the four Super rugby teams also needs to play a role. We all have to commit coaches and players to doing all we can to playing winning and attractive rugby. That will bring the crowds back to where they were.

SH: How would you describe your achievements as CEO since your return?

JO: As I said very clearly on my return, I am not and never will be a Messiah; it will take a team effort. I will leave it to others to make overall judgments on my abilities but the financial turnaround in 2008 was pleasing and absolutely necessary for our game. ARU announced a record operating surplus of $9.25 million before allocations. In 2007 it was an operating deficit of $466,000. That was a turnaround of more than $9.7 million. ARU also increased allocations to member unions by more than $500,000 to $8.54 million. The surplus after allocations was $712,000 compared to a deficit after allocations in 2007 of $8.48 million. We have identified the reality of our position and are focusing on the things that matter, including the performance of the Wallabies. This is a long-haul turnaround in every aspect; there is no short-term fix.

SH: You have had problems with the players' association, the states and some players - is that simply a case of taking a stand?

JO: I'm not sure what is being referred to here because a lot of these so-called problems are the result of anonymous speculation, innuendo and general mischief-making by certain disaffected parties. If one issue to which you are referring is the Lote Tuqiri termination, we stand by the decision. It had the full support of the ARU board and coach Robbie Deans. Captain Stirling Mortlock was also briefed fully.

SH: Was leaving Matt Giteau and Stirling Mortlock out of the leadership group an oversight or a calculated statement?

JO: This question seems to perpetuate the mischief being peddled by disaffected people - and I don't mean players. The captaincy and general leadership decisions are the coach's to make, not mine. So those wanting to suggest anonymously that I had an influence should put up or shut up rather than working in the shadows like cowards.

SH: There are people who say Australia needs an ARC-style competition. Why wasn't that persevered with?

JO: ARC lost more than $5 million in its first year. It was forecast to lose a further $3.3 million in the second year. In theory, it has some appeal; in reality it has been unaffordable. Each of our major competitors are supported by state-based competitions. That is precisely the case with Super rugby being supported by Premier Rugby competitions in Sydney and Brisbane, which in the past two years have had Wallaby players back in the fold on a far more frequent basis. Let me also ask this: what other football code in Australia has a sustainable third tier? We are expanding the footprint of Super rugby significantly from 2011. The season will run seamlessly from March through until the end of the Tri Nations and then on to the spring tour. Super rugby expansion will also help develop a much broader player base - the ideal of a third-tier competition.
 

louie

Desmond Connor (43)
agreed WJ. At the end of the day JON is doing the right thing. Keep the ARU above debit. We need that to stay alive.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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I fail to see what he should have done different, 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.
 

Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
A have a few minor criticisms of JON.

1. ARC could have been cut down but saved.

2. Of course reserves would be highest immediatly following RWC2003. You would expect to spend some of that.

3. He is clearly part of the poisonous rumour mill.

His 2nd term will really be judged by getting the S15 in Melbourne and a better $ deal for Australia.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
I'm a fan of John O'Neill and can't see that he has done much wrong. I would not attach any blame at all to him for declining attendances and poor Wallaby and S14 performances - it's not John O'Neill who is bereft of playing skills and refuses to hit the ruck and I haven't seen him miss a tackle or drop a pass. Performances and attendances go hand in hand - players improving their performance will improve attendances and make the administrators look good.

Scarfy has it right - if Melbourne gets the 15th spot and ARU finances are in good shape, he'll ne judged to have done very well.

Has anyone had a look at the ARU financial statements? I'd be very interested in the trends and structures of revenues and expenditures.
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Marks is talking out his bitter old pipe:

''It has let its 'national coaching plan' deteriorate to a point where it has to go offshore to find a coach for its national team and it relentlessly drove the law changes that have produced a game that has induced falling crowds,

We pushed for the Law changes and only got half of them. This is what makes for an unattractive game. Go download the ARC torrents I'm putting up on ATT and you'll see some good footy when all the ELVs are in play. I suppose Dick would like to go back to the days where you could kick out on the full from anywhere, and remove lifting from lineouts ::)

I don't agree with everything that JON does (losing a third-tier comp is a big no-no but I understand the financial implications) but jeez when you're pushing shit uphill and some of our players are getting the 1995 attitude, you can understand why things are in the shitter.
 

Moses

Simon Poidevin (60)
Staff member
Biffo said:
Has anyone had a look at the ARU financial statements? I'd be very interested in the trends and structures of revenues and expenditures.
That's a great idea, I'm studying business accounting at the moment so it'd be a good chance to practice what I've learnt and stick it up on the blog. If there's anyone gifted in financial analysis I'd love a second pair of eyes to look over it. After the ARU I reckon the state unions would also be worth a look.
I'll start when I finish the current subject, in about a month...
 

liquor box

Peter Sullivan (51)
I thought it was a pretty honest assessment of the situation until-
was not doing the game any favours by ostracising fan favourites such as Al Baxter
WTF? when did this happen?


I think some of the issues is that there are too many players who get picked for training squads, the general public wonders why we pick 45 to start in a squad and then get beaten, how good does this make the first player to miss the cut?

The concept of "Franchises" rather than teams does not sit well with many people too, If this is the way of the future then I suggest getting rid of references to NSW and QLD and just have the Waratahs and Reds. With the current names it makes professionals like Barnes look like he has turned his back on his state for money, and people dont like this idea, if you are turning your back on a "franchise" you do not lose face with the die hard "state" fans.

I dont think that Australia has the passion for Rugby to support a national comp with club sides, but perhaps while the spring tour is on there could be a home and away series between the Aussie S14 "reserve" teams.
 
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Spook

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Australian rugby will do better when the homes sides are playing each other more than once per season. It'll be even better with a 5th side.
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
Spook said:
Australian rugby will do better when the homes sides are playing each other more than once per season. It'll be even better with a 5th side.

I hope you're right.

The Tahs Brumbies and Tahs Reds games this year were two of te most drab and boring games I have ever attended live and just playing one another won't be enough. The crowds will only improve if the quality of the rugby does.
 
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Spook

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Blue said:
Spook said:
Australian rugby will do better when the homes sides are playing each other more than once per season. It'll be even better with a 5th side.

I hope you're right.

The Tahs Brumbies and Tahs Reds games this year were two of te most drab and boring games I have ever attended live and just playing one another won't be enough. The crowds will only improve if the quality of the rugby does.

Yeah they weren't good but the home and away series will generate a lot of interest.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
Moses said:
Biffo said:
Has anyone had a look at the ARU financial statements? I'd be very interested in the trends and structures of revenues and expenditures.
That's a great idea, I'm studying business accounting at the moment so it'd be a good chance to practice what I've learnt and stick it up on the blog. If there's anyone gifted in financial analysis I'd love a second pair of eyes to look over it. After the ARU I reckon the state unions would also be worth a look.
I'll start when I finish the current subject, in about a month...

After making that post I went to the ARU web site and found that there is a button titled "annual reports". Unfortunately, my internet conection today is too poor to download them. I'll have better access tomorrow and will get the lot (7 or 8 years) and have a look at them.
 

waratahjesus

Greg Davis (50)
are we to harsh to think that getting rid of the ARC was all O'neils fault, surely some of the blame should be pointed at flowers who seemed to more or less rush the concept through without proper costings so he at least achieved something in office.

there is alot of NRL games that lose money every season around sydney. most teams have moved from there grounds to homebush/sfs under deals were the stadiums give them a set amount and the stadium keeps any money made above that on the crowd. this is becasue the sfs/homebush are in competition to attract crowds, not becasue rugby league is seen as a money making exercise. there can charge more for sponsorship if more games are played there. i dont think there is enough eyes to actually make a third tear national comp viable. running something at a loss when every super team seems to just be holding on currently seems like madness to me. as much as we might want to watch more rugby, having the twenty of us onside doesnt make the tv ratings for the bledisloe better, what sort of deals can a third string side actually do.
 
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