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Horwill gone for 9 months...

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Nathan Sharpe (72)
For those who didn't see it in the Reds thread - but this is bigger than just the Reds. Damn shame for the Wallabies too ...

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,26749442-5002381,00.html

Knee surgery rules Queensland Reds captain James Horwill out for season

By Jim Morton
February 20, 2010

Queensland Reds are looking for a new skipper and Wallabies coach Robbie Deans a new enforcer after a shattered James Horwill was ruled out for nine months.
The abrasive 115kg lock badly ruptured his knee in the Reds' stirring 41-20 upset of the Crusaders and will require season-ending surgery.

Any pleasure coach Ewen McKenzie derived from his young team being unexpected Super 14 pace-setters after their round-two Suncorp Stadium win was drained away by the devastating loss.

Horwill is their most influential and damaging forward and has proven to be a quality leader since taking over the captaincy at 22 in 2008.

The 24-Test backrower will also miss the Tri Nations, and most probably Australia's end-of-season tour to Europe in November.

The only upside from the injury, sustained midway through the second half and likened to that which sidelined Tim Horan for much of 1994-95, is that the long term prognosis is for a complete recovery well in time for the 2011 World Cup.
 

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Bob Davidson (42)
He will be a big loss no doubt. With Van injured (is he still?) that will mean Simmons and Byrne to start next week. Simmo is going to have to step up. What are the options beyond that?

As for the leadership...For continuity's sake Daley or Genia for mine. Turinui probably won't be around next season.
 
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I can just feel Ed Quirk coming into the fray


Genia announced as skipper
QR Reds Head Coach Ewen McKenzie has confirmed that Wallaby and Reds scrumhalf Will Genia will lead the side following the season-ending knee injury to captain James Horwill.

Horwill is facing a nine month layoff with major surgery to be followed by a lengthy rehabilitation program after he was carried off midway through the second half of the Reds’ thrilling 41-20 win over the Crusaders at Suncorp Stadium last night.

McKenzie said Genia had already been identified for his leadership qualities and made vice captain, so he was confident he would handle the additional responsibility – especially with the help of others in the team and with Horwill’s continued involvement off-field.

“He's in a good position on the field (at scrumhalf). We made him the vice captain because we thought he's got potential to lead. He certainly leads by example on the field; he does just about everything right in the game,” McKenzie said.

“He'll step up and we'll just consider our options of who'll support him in a vice captain role.”

McKenzie said while Horwill’s layoff will be lengthy, his long term recovery prospects were excellent.

“There’s a bunch of ligaments that need to be repaired. But the good news is the surfaces in there, the knee joint and everything, are all in pretty good shape. So once the ligaments are repaired and recovered he'll be back 100 per cent, so that's good for the prospects after (his recovery).”

McKenzie said Horwill was bearing up well despite the disappointment and he was keen to stay involved.

“He's obviously very upset but he's handling it pretty well. He'll be in here on Monday and ...he wants to still participate in what's going on. But there's things he can do to help us so we'll work on that in parallel with him getting the medical side of it sorted.”

McKenzie said the focus now was to put the disappointment of Horwill’s loss behind them and “just get on with it” and there had been no emotional talk of using Horwill’s injury as motivation for winning next Saturday’s Ballymore match against the Blues.

“That's the way sport works. It doesn't always pan out how you'd like. We don't want it to become a distraction: we're certainly confident about the guys we've got in our group and other guys'll step up and they might offer different things. We might have to adapt our game a little bit but we can't change anything so we'll just get on with it.

“To play the Blues here is terrific. A lot of the guys in the team haven't actually played at Ballymore in a Super (rugby) game. It'll be an honour and a great occasion. But the pressure's really on the players to keep delivering in the right style, so we'll be talking more about that than anything else.”

The injury news put a severe dampener on last night's celebration of what was one of the Reds’ best team performances in recent seasons. The pressure of the Reds defence forced their Canterbury counterparts into a host of uncharacteristic errors and when the visitors fumbled, the Reds pounced on the mistakes, scoring many of their points from turnover ball.

Reds flyhalf Quade Cooper scored 31 points - a new Reds’ individual Super Rugby record – with one of his two tries a superb effort in which he gave the pass that created the linebreak and then took the final pass from a sideline tip toeing Peter Hynes to somehow plant the ball right in the corner before the defence swamped him.
 

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Rocky Elsom (76)
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I think Ezra Taylor's the man to come back. Van to start with Ezra taking Simmon's spot on the bench.
 

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Desmond Connor (43)
Could this be a blessing in disguise for Qld and Oz rugby? Will force both Ewen and Robbie to find new locks to fill the hole left by Kev's injury the year before the world cup. Hopefully it will lead to a top class lock emerging to take Kev's spot (and not the option of giving Sharpe another run because he has experience - unless his form (in the tight play) warrants re-inclusion) in the Wallabies and a potential long term replacement for Van at the Reds as he winds down his career.
 
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FAAAAAAAAARK. Mumm and Sharpe will have to step up. Caldwell? Dud? Chisolm will be around as well.
 

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Mark Ella (57)
If Byrnes smartens up, this may be his opening to higher honers. Noticed Sharpe was out thinking he was a back against the Canes over the weekend, when he needed to get in the thick of it.

Simmons needs game time to learn his craft at this level. Start him along side Van Humphrys this week and let the old fella share his wisdom. Bring Byrnes on for impact in the second half if required.
 

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Rocky Elsom (76)
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so on one hand your saying Byrnes is close to Wallaby selection and on the other your saying we should bench him? Doesn't make sense to me.
 
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Byrnes is one of those players who comes in as 3rd man in a lot, and just tries to start shit. I reckon he's more of a liability then a Wallaby chance.
 

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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Byrnes is a knob. There's mongrel and then there's pure idiot. I'm not just saying that because of his niggle in the Tahs game - I noticed him getting involved in the Saders' game too. He's not that effective a player to be able to get away with that sort of thing in a Bakkies or Johnson style of play.
 

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Rocky Elsom (76)
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I think he'd be pretty happy that he is being compared to Bakkies or Johnson to be happy.

I am more than happy for him to keep doing what he is doing.

One yellow card a season is fine.
 

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Chilla Wilson (44)
I actually like Byrne, he's not a test lock but he's good for the Reds & he's certainly doing his part to unsettle the opposition.

Van Humphries should be available this week & I would like to see Taylor come onto the bench.
 

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Michael Lynagh (62)
I agree with NTA. Byrnes looks like he could be a good hard lock with mongrel, but right now he can be more idiot at times. He was less idiot vs the Crusaders (apart from the card, which was cynical and deserved). I'm hopeful he can improve, the same way Horwill cut the dumb penalties from his game, yet keep the hardness.
 

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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Noddy said:
I think he'd be pretty happy that he is being compared to Bakkies or Johnson to be happy.

I think you missed my point. Let me put it more simply: picture our solar system. If the sun was the perfect tough, aggressive lock with the niggle factor, then Martin Johnson would be Mercury, while Bakkies would be either Venus or Earth. Adam Byrnes is, by comparison, a small ball of inert gas floating near Pluto
 

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Rocky Elsom (76)
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Riiiight. What you're saying he is no Dean Mumm (currently suspended for a cheap shot) nor Will Caldwell (an out and out cheat). Gotcha! :thumb
 
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