Having no NRC is better how?

[MungoMan]

Many are they who love their local club comp and, likely, few are they who give not a bugger but miss NRC greatly. I number among the latter.

 

[qwerty51]

NRC costs money. RA has none.

Simple.

 

[Lindommer]

This is where the big end of town should have their arms twisted by McLennan and co to come up with the funds to run this vitally important competition.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

Many are they who love their local club comp and, likely, few are they who give not a bugger but miss NRC greatly. I number among the latter.

Yeah, watching the NPC and cannot help but long for something that could fill the same purpose as this. Unless we go with some kind of national semi-pro club competition that essentially runs some kind of franchise model allowing for clubs to sign players then we may be waiting for a long time.

 

[Jagman]

I'm not against the NRC but is there any evidence that the comp did anything for the quality of rugby at the levels above in its 6 seasons? Its hard to think that the Aus Super teams could have been even worse between 2016 and 2020.

 

[RugbyReg]

I'm not against the NRC but is there any evidence that the comp did anything for the quality of rugby at the levels above in its 6 seasons? Its hard to think that the Aus Super teams could have been even worse between 2016 and 2020.

I think QLD have definitely benefitted. I'd suggest the BRumbies too. More importantly I think the individual players benefitted. It provided ideal (I feel) middle schooling for the likes of Tupou, Hodge, Wilson, Naivalu and turned up some diamonds in the rough such as Jock Campbell and Filipo Daugunu.

 

[Rebel man]

I think QLD have definitely benefitted. I'd suggest the BRumbies too. More importantly I think the individual players benefitted. It provided ideal (I feel) middle schooling for the likes of Tupou, Hodge, Wilson, Naivalu and turned up some diamonds in the rough such as Jock Campbell and Filipo Daugunu.

I think it is pretty clear cut, Queensland and the ACT had the best programs and went on to be the best of the Aus sides as a result

 

[PhilClinton]

Yeh I think it's been mentioned many times across various threads that the QRU running both the NRC teams, as well as Thorn's early involvement, definitely steered the Reds to a period of success. There was a unified goal for the teams.

I am sure the sentiment is quite different in NSW.

 

[Maulalltheway]

anyone across the rebirth of the Australian Rugby Shield. Adelaide October long weekend and the week prior i believe. SA, VIC, Tas, NT, NSW country, Qld country, WA and ACT in 2 pools

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

Yeh I think it's been mentioned many times across various threads that the QRU running both the NRC teams, as well as Thorn's early involvement, definitely steered the Reds to a period of success. There was a unified goal for the teams.

I am sure the sentiment is quite different in NSW.

Not from this NSWelshmen. I've been an avid Shute Shield viewer for a long time but without a huge influx of funds it cannot bridge the gap that the likes of the NPC does between club and professionalism. The NRC did that and frankly should have always been controlled directly by NSW Rugby.

 

[Jagman]

I think it is pretty clear cut, Queensland and the ACT had the best programs and went on to be the best of the Aus sides as a result

But were they better with the NRC against NZ and SA sides who have always had an equivalent comp. There's always going to be a best Aus side. But even the Brumbies were terrible against NZ with the exception of 2019. The other problem is that it is only this year since 2016 that Aus sides have managed more than 25% victories against NZ. Before 2016 the lowest percentage (in season AUS vs NZ matches) was 30% in 2007. And of course there has not been an NRC since 2019 so with the Super Rugby teams have pulled but some of the difference without it. Unless we argue that the Super Rugby teams would have been even worse without the NRC I don't see how the historical data supports it helping Super Rugby and Test level.

 

[Pass it to Dunning!]

The NRC was really effective in sorting out who was going to pan out and who wasn't at a professional level. I remember Dangunu, Kellaway, Kerevi and Naivalu tearing it up. If only NSW rugby didn't try to whiteant it because they were stuck in the 1980s.

 

[Rebel man]

But were they better with the NRC against NZ and SA sides who have always had an equivalent comp. There's always going to be a best Aus side. But even the Brumbies were terrible against NZ with the exception of 2019. The other problem is that it is only this year since 2016 that Aus sides have managed more than 25% victories against NZ. Before 2016 the lowest percentage (in season AUS vs NZ matches) was 30% in 2007. And of course there has not been an NRC since 2019 so with the Super Rugby teams have pulled but some of the difference without it. Unless we argue that the Super Rugby teams would have been even worse without the NRC I don't see how the historical data supports it helping Super Rugby and Test level.

Who cares about NZ sides. We need to focus on ourselves

 

[Perth Girl]

Hmmm who was it who won the last NRC easily beating an ACT side full of Brumbies? Yes that's right it was the Force! The Toaster can be seen in the WF headquarters

 

[RugbyReg]

Hmmm who was it who won the last NRC easily beating an ACT side full of Brumbies? Yes that's right it was the Force! The Toaster can be seen in the WF headquarters

terrific contribution to the topic at hand

 

[Tomthumb]

Who cares about NZ sides. We need to focus on ourselves

The model they and South Africa use gives their players pathways and it means they don't have to throw guys from club rugby to Super rugby and destroy their confidence off the bat

 

[qwerty51]

Hmmm who was it who won the last NRC easily beating an ACT side full of Brumbies? Yes that's right it was the Force! The Toaster can be seen in the WF headquarters

National Rugby Championship 2019 Final: Western Force vs 226 (41 - 3)

Full match report, highlights, and analysis of the National Rugby Championship draw between Western Force and 226 at UWA Sports Park on October 26, 2019

www.rugby.com.au

Interesting looking at the 2019 final. 7 Wallabies from the last match in the Vikings side

 

[Jagman]

Who cares about NZ sides. We need to focus on ourselves

before the NRC existed the continuing online argument as far as I could tell was that Australia needed a 3rd Tier national comp to develop players or they would never reliably compete with NZ and SA who have one. I bought into this and believed it would eventually make a difference to Aus Super Rugby sides through the awful post 2015 seasons.

Also, how can we know if the NRC is improving Australian player development ("focus on ourselves") without comparing our performances internationally?

 

[Perth Girl]

terrific contribution to the topic at hand

Thanks Reg To read the posts on here you would never know the Force had taken part in the NRC let alone won it!

 

[Slim 293]

Thanks Reg To read the posts on here you would never know the Force had taken part in the NRC let alone won it!

That must’ve been tough for you… the winning, that is.