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Nev Cottrell (35)
It simply is not logical, Invercargill. it just doesn't have the population to warrant it. What audience or value would they bring with them. They have a proud tradition in NZ. But sorry this is entirely different.
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It simply is not logical, Invercargill. it just doesn't have the population to warrant it. What audience or value would they bring with them. They have a proud tradition in NZ. But sorry this is entirely different.
KiwiM
Arch Winning (36)
Whilst North Harbour don't get great crowds I find this to be a bullshit generalisation. Blues crowds have actually been decent considering how shit they have been for almost all of the last decade. For one, Blues crowds at Albany aren't that bad and would be better than Clan crowds at Invercargill. If it's a nice day this Sunday I'd imagine Auckland v North Harbour should fetch a healthy crowd at Eden Park.
hoggy
Nev Cottrell (35)
https://www.smh.com.au/national/tim...orrest-can-ruck-and-roll-20181010-p508wk.html
Sort of confusing article, read in it what you may.
Sort of confusing article, read in it what you may.
kiap
Steve Williams (59)
Snippets:
Is a month-long detente between billionaire rugby union fan Andrew “Twiggy” Forrest and Raelene Castle’s Rugby Australia, the code’s governing body, unravelling already?
The expansion of Forrest’s World Series competition planned for next year is due to be ticked off by the World Rugby Executive Committee next month.
"Detente" was an apt description. It was only ever an easing of hostility. Rugby Australia and the World Series Rugby "rebel" league are waging a cold war. The hate is still there on all sides, but they posed for a smiling photo while Gosper and co were in town.
.… The plan has always been to start with a team in Sydney’s west and several big-money types are waiting in the wings for sign-off from Rugby Australia and NSW Rugby.
Despite backing next year’s expansion, support for the new team has (still) not been forthcoming.
With kick-off scheduled for late February, time is running out to make arrangements.
And that’s exactly what Rugby Australia is concerned about.
Sad to say, but I've already written off a Western Sydney team, Hoggy. RA and NSW don't want it, never wanted it. Never will.The last line in the snippet above is great! Time running short is exactly what Rugby Australia wants to see.
But I've been posting that all year. We move on.
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Which really fucks with my brain. Western Sydney is the biggest sporting market in Australia bar perhaps Melbourne, and we don't even have a fucking shute shield team. Why the hell wouldn't they support twiggy expanding into it?Snippets:
Is a month-long detente between billionaire rugby union fan Andrew “Twiggy” Forrest and Raelene Castle’s Rugby Australia, the code’s governing body, unravelling already?The expansion of Forrest’s World Series competition planned for next year is due to be ticked off by the World Rugby Executive Committee next month."Detente" was an apt description. It was only ever an easing of hostility. Rugby Australia and the World Series Rugby "rebel" league are waging a cold war. The hate is still there on all sides, but they posed for a smiling photo while Gosper and co were in town.
. The plan has always been to start with a team in Sydney’s west and several big-money types are waiting in the wings for sign-off from Rugby Australia and NSW Rugby.Despite backing next year’s expansion, support for the new team has (still) not been forthcoming.With kick-off scheduled for late February, time is running out to make arrangements.And that’s exactly what Rugby Australia is concerned about.Sad to say, but I have already written off a Western Sydney team, Hoggy. RA and NSW don't want it, never wanted it. Never will.
The last line in the snippet above is great! Time running short is exactly what Rugby Australia wants.
But I've been posting that all year. We move on.
God damn pack of fucking idiots.
hoggy
Nev Cottrell (35)
Maybe its a little to close to home, you put a team in WS and all of a sudden you are playing in the same ball park as RA.
They signed of on this thing as long as it didn't affect them. The only thing RA are concerned about are the Wallabies.
What twiggy needs to do is get some more private money involved, he can't do it all himself and they know it, but you introduce 1/2 more big investors and the whole f____g house of cards will fall.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
One of the earliest stated goals of the competition was to look to attract Australian players back to our shores. May be I'm missing something but wouldn't adding more depth to the player pool be beneficial to the Wallabies?
Snippets:
Is a month-long detente between billionaire rugby union fan Andrew “Twiggy” Forrest and Raelene Castle’s Rugby Australia, the code’s governing body, unravelling already?The expansion of Forrest’s World Series competition planned for next year is due to be ticked off by the World Rugby Executive Committee next month."Detente" was an apt description. It was only ever an easing of hostility. Rugby Australia and the World Series Rugby "rebel" league are waging a cold war. The hate is still there on all sides, but they posed for a smiling photo while Gosper and co were in town.
.… The plan has always been to start with a team in Sydney’s west and several big-money types are waiting in the wings for sign-off from Rugby Australia and NSW Rugby.Despite backing next year’s expansion, support for the new team has (still) not been forthcoming.With kick-off scheduled for late February, time is running out to make arrangements.And that’s exactly what Rugby Australia is concerned about.Sad to say, but I've already written off a Western Sydney team, Hoggy. RA and NSW don't want it, never wanted it. Never will.
The last line in the snippet above is great! Time running short is exactly what Rugby Australia wants to see.
But I've been posting that all year. We move on.
I believe it's still there on one side, but is there hate from RA to Twiggy and his cohorts?
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
Snippets:
Is a month-long detente between billionaire rugby union fan Andrew “Twiggy” Forrest and Raelene Castle’s Rugby Australia, the code’s governing body, unravelling already?The expansion of Forrest’s World Series competition planned for next year is due to be ticked off by the World Rugby Executive Committee next month."Detente" was an apt description. It was only ever an easing of hostility. Rugby Australia and the World Series Rugby "rebel" league are waging a cold war. The hate is still there on all sides, but they posed for a smiling photo while Gosper and co were in town.
.… The plan has always been to start with a team in Sydney’s west and several big-money types are waiting in the wings for sign-off from Rugby Australia and NSW Rugby.Despite backing next year’s expansion, support for the new team has (still) not been forthcoming.With kick-off scheduled for late February, time is running out to make arrangements.And that’s exactly what Rugby Australia is concerned about.Sad to say, but I've already written off a Western Sydney team, Hoggy. RA and NSW don't want it, never wanted it. Never will.
The last line in the snippet above is great! Time running short is exactly what Rugby Australia wants to see.
But I've been posting that all year. We move on.
We essentially know this is going to be signed off by WR (World Rugby). They should look at putting the necessary pieces in place regardless of the current situation here. Forrest has a direct line to WR (World Rugby) via his dealing with Pichot and once signed could look to have WR (World Rugby) put pressure on RA to play ball.
Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
RA is worried about the Super Rugby teams, not the Wallabies
Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
Pichot's conflicted himself out of all dealings with WSR hasn't he?
dru
David Wilson (68)
You think it doesn't exist from Clynne and his cronies? Man, that just is not the impression that I get.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
If RA haven't been concerned with the performance of the Super Rugby sides both on and off the pitch for the past few seasons then we're in even deeper shit than many of us assume. Part of why I like the idea of a WS team competing in the same space (I'm talking Rugby) is that it would hopefully force the NSWRU and RA to start looking to operate Super Rugby as they always should. As a commercial entity and not a glorified trial system.
There would be ways to mitigate and potential impact in my opinion. Limiting where they can source talent would be one. Look to hold them to the returning player statement for one or if they wish to draw from the current pool of talent have them partner with WS clubs to set up pathways.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
I haven't seen anything about that. But it still doesn't negate what I suggested. Dealing with Pichot would have provided Forrest with more access to other members of WR (World Rugby) as well.
Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
Isn't this the sticking point? RA want to limit where the players are sourced from, and limit eligibility of players not in Australia, and WSR don't want these limits
kiap
Steve Williams (59)
You're right, calm disdain is best to describe Rugby Australia.
Although I think they hate what WSR is about.
They will resist change – regardless of whether it boosts the game in places such as Western Sydney – wherever they perceive some loss of control.
It will take yet more hits to RA - in the direction of sending the game bust - before they'll deign to look at a plan B. I think we'll see those hits coming within a few years, although by then their alternatives might have shrunk or gone.
World Rugby are interested in WSR as it applies to the Asia Pacific so, yes, it should get the sign off in a month or so.
However, they're not interested in micromanaging what happens within Australia. Brett Robinson has already heatedly confronted Pichot over WSR even though Pichot is not involved with it and the competition doesn't yet exist - details such as whether Western Sydney is allowed to raise cash to enter a team will be left to RA. The only real pressure on RA in that regard will have to come from within Australia.
But the pressure on RA generally will increase while their downward trajectory keeps on going.
And by RA I mean NSW and Qld. Melbourne will be expendable.
kiap
Steve Williams (59)
How can you limit where players are sourced from?
Blackadder
Desmond Connor (43)
kiap
Steve Williams (59)
Geerob:
… block the rebel league in western Sydney and across the Tasman until after 2020 …
LOL >> Boom! There it is.
Not unexpected. Disappointed for W. Syd although no NZ team is no real loss.
We still await the actual comp. It needs to get the ball rolling.