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Brumbies 2012

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Bob Davidson (42)
I went to the Reds trial game in Feb this year and can confirm it was pretty blood steamy! They do play in quarters though and are well looked after from a cooling and hydration perspective. I'ts brilliant that Cairns and Darwin get these games as there are a good number of passionate rugby followers in those places.
 

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Desmond Connor (43)
The poor old Brumbies won't know what's hit them. I remember they came to Wagga in 2005 to play a trial match against the Chiefs and that was too hot for them! They won't cope with Cairns at all.
 

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
The poor old Brumbies won't know what's hit them. I remember they came to Wagga in 2005 to play a trial match against the Chiefs and that was too hot for them! They won't cope with Cairns at all.

Both them and the Reds handled Darwin ok last year and it is generally hotter here than Cairns. I look forward to getting a good look at the new Brumbies in Febuary.
 

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Ted Fahey (11)
Heard some rugby talk today while in Manuka(hope I spelled that right) Rory Murphy now in senior squad? Any truth to this?
 

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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Heard some rugby talk today while in Manuka(hope I spelled that right) Rory Murphy now in senior squad? Any truth to this?

Manuka is correct.

That decision wouldn't surprise me with a position open and a lack of LH props with Alexander wanting to be a TH...
 

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Stirling Mortlock (74)
The Crimes seems to confirm that Murphy will be elevated to the senior squad, but they're trying to suss out his player status in the chance of possibly signing Rossouw...

However, it's likely Murphy will retain the foreign marquee spot as he hasn't been in Australia long enough despite holding a passport...
 

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Chris McKivat (8)
I'm quietly confident that the Brumbies will finish ahead of both the Force and Rebels, then with a bit of luck could slide past one of the other Aussie teams if they have injury problems etc. I think that both Force and Rebels best handfull of players may be better than the Brumbies best but their worst cohort are much worse than the Brumbies. If that makes sense.
I can't wait, as per nearly every year!
 

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Geoff Shaw (53)
The Brums are exciting and will play as such (in a Reds 2009 vein).

I said last year that the Brums will be awful and I think this year they will be similarly mediocre (results wise). They will finish 4th or 5th in an Australia conference that I expect to be competitive as a whole.

Just a prediction, but people called me a fool last year too.
 
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Brumbies will not lose a game this season and win the competition.
 

mudskipper

Colin Windon (37)
The Brums are exciting and will play as such (in a Reds 2009 vein).

I said last year that the Brums will be awful and I think this year they will be similarly mediocre (results wise). They will finish 4th or 5th in an Australia conference that I expect to be competitive as a whole.

Just a prediction, but people called me a fool last year too.

brumbies can finish second or better out of the AUS teams
 

en_force_er

Geoff Shaw (53)
brumbies can finish second or better out of the AUS teams

You're right they can, they certainly have what looks to be a quality roster.

But I think people are misguided in thinking a quality roster of newbies has the capacity to have Super Rugby success from day 1.

I think they will lose a lot but play some pearlers and by mid season they will have 1 eye on 2013.
 

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Stirling Mortlock (74)
There's no Wallabies on his side, but don't tell new Brumbies coach White there's no hope

Josh Rakic
December 3, 2011

The Super Rugby side may be at a low ebb but optimism is plentiful, writes Josh Rakic.

YOU get the sense World Cup-winning Springboks coach Jake White did his homework on Australia before agreeing to a four-year deal with the Brumbies. After all, he was a Johannesburg school teacher.

Cast aside by the South African Rugby Union following the 2007 World Cup win over England, he's waited four years to get back into the game as a head coach.

And while he makes no secret of his intentions to again scale the heights of international rugby and lead another side to World Cup victory - perhaps the Wallabies one day - the endearing father-like figure sees Australia as the perfect platform to relaunch his coaching career and develop into not just a better rugby coach but a world-class mentor.

''The one thing that I'm excited about and also played a massive role in coming to the Brumbies is it's not just the Brumbies, it's Australia,'' says a relaxed White, leaning back in his chair after sharing a gourmet meal with his playing squad at Brumbies HQ.

''Australians have got an unbelievable work ethic in sport. When you look at their achievements in sport it is phenomenal. I just thought that this was the one country where I could develop as a coach.

''And I thought that Super Rugby might be a good way to get back into rugby. And there's a link between South Africa, so I can still be judged as coach within that competition.''

He's already picked the brains of some of the country's top coaches.

''I read Ric Charlesworth's book and since I've been here I've had meetings with Bill Sweetenham, the swimming coach,'' he says. ''I've had meetings with Ricky Stuart. Kevin Sheedy is going to be coming to Canberra and I went down to Melbourne and met Craig Bellamy.''

And he knows new Australian cricket coach Mickey Arthur better than most. White revealed it was Arthur who helped convince him Down Under was a place to prosper.

''I don't think he ever thought he'd be coaching Australia in cricket. And I asked him a lot about Australia before I moved here,'' White says.

''And he said: 'Jake, the one thing about this place is they share their knowledge, they're open to ideas and players like to be coached.' He said it was a great environment to bring out the best in yourself … I may not have international exposure but there's a lot more opportunity for me to develop myself as a coach.''

With the NSW coast less than two hours away, White says he's the happiest man in Canberra. And clearly, given the mass player exodus in the nation's capital, he's the only one happy the Brumbies ended last year's Super Rugby season just two rungs short of last on the ladder.

There's no Matt Giteau, no Adam Ashley-Cooper, no Rocky Elsom, Mark Chisholm, Huia Edmonds, Salesi Ma'afu or Josh Valentine. And captain Stephen Hoiles parted ways with the club just this week due to a career-threatening Achilles injury.

But as he looks around the team room scattered with unknowns and wide-eyed 20-somethings, White smiles. ''Coaching goes in cycles,'' he says, starting every answer with an explanation as to how he came to that conclusion. His seeming transparency - or brutal honesty, depending how you look at it - is a trait that endeared him to his subjects, past and present. Less so with the rugby hierarchy in South Africa.

''You go into our change room now and our dining room now and, with all due respect, there are no Wallabies sitting there,'' he says.

''The other teams are sitting with all the Wallabies players and are at the top of their cycle, while we are at the bottom of our cycle. In a couple [of] years' time, hopefully these boys will be at the top of theirs.''

A similarity to the Springboks of 2004, then languishing in sixth on the International Rugby Board world rankings table, attracted White to the Brumbies.

''We started at the Boks with nobody and we were sixth in the world,'' he says. ''The Brumbies are 13th of 15, we've lost about eight Wallabies. But I don't see it as doom and gloom … I mean, six of the starting pack that I ever played in my first game as coach of South Africa played in the World Cup final.''

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...res-no-hope-20111202-1ob0q.html#ixzz1fXrKK8IN
 

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
Not for the Brumbies... :nta: ... Brumbies should get the Reds to come play a match in Eden... or Wagga Wagga...


Reds came to Darwin last year in what was a Brumbies home game. Only fair they attend a Reds home venue this year. Would be great for the Brumbies to get trial matches to the venues you suggest.
 

mudskipper

Colin Windon (37)
I'm not sure why they bothered with a Darwin home game... Its should have been neutral for both teams as both could brand build from the same match... Anyway, I like to see them engage more of the southern NSW communities at some point.
 

mudskipper

Colin Windon (37)
fair point but next season many teams have newbies... but a few as many as the Brumbies but the brums do have plenty who know what it takes not all the newbies will be on the field at the same time. Still have a pack with good Super experience, Alexander, Moore, Palmer, Kimlin, Hand, Fainga'a, Hooper, Vaea, and Mowen... Power and Auelua have plenty of good experience. THe backs are greener but behind a dominate pack they'll work well. To'omua and Lealiifano have a few Super seasons experience...


Their isolated long advance preseason in Canberra will like surprise a few... They'll be points for the taking... :)
 
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TOCC

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Blame Fagan if you have a issue with it..
He negotiated a deal with the Northern Territory Rugby Union
 
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Newter

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The Brums are exciting and will play as such (in a Reds 2009 vein).

I said last year that the Brums will be awful and I think this year they will be similarly mediocre (results wise). They will finish 4th or 5th in an Australia conference that I expect to be competitive as a whole.

Just a prediction, but people called me a fool last year too.

I can't really agree. The players they've lost don't matter that much - they've still got a dominant frontrow and some experienced young players in the backrow and inside backs.

Most of all they've now got Laurie Fisher back. He is a good forwards coach. They won't make the finals but they'll win 9 or 10 games at least.
 
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