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Aussie Player Exodus

Dismal Pillock

Michael Lynagh (62)
You kind of feel that the universe has put things right.

Time to abandon all of these naively frivolous notions of scheduling outdoor sporting pursuits.

Consigned to the dustbin of history as we forever.....

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Dctarget

Tim Horan (67)
London Irish put out a team today that had over 320 Wallabies caps:
Phipps (70)
Coleman (34)
Kepu (106)
Simmons (105)

Got me thinking which NH competition has the best Aussie Expat Team. Good use of my time in lockdown:


England:
1. Ollie Hoskins
2. James Hanson
3. Sekope Kepu
4. Rob Simmons
5. Adam Coleman
6. Sam Carter*
7. Jordy Reid
8. Scott Fardy*
9. Nick Phipps
10. Jack Walsh
11. Naiyaravoro
12. Ben Tapuai
13. Billy Meakes
14. Curtis Rona
15. Luke Morahan
16.
17. Dylan Evans**
18.
19. Blake Enever
20. Adam Korczyk
21. Ben Meehan
22. Michael Dowsett
23. Kurt Heatherley, Harry Potter
Coach: Billy Millard (Harlequins coach) Stephen Larkham*
*nabbed from Ireland

France:
1. Guy Millar
2. Tolu Latu
3. Paul Alo-Emile
4. Rory Arnold
5. Will Skelton
6. Lopeti Timani
7. Colby Fainga’a
8. Scott Higginbotham
9. Nic Stirzaker
10. Mike Harris
11. CFS
12. Peter Betham
13. Duncan Pai’aua
14. Henry Speight
15. Kurtley Beale
16.
17. Mees Erasmus, David Feao
18. Izack Rodda, Matt Philip, Richie Arnold, Sitaleki Timani, Tom Staniforth, Hugh Pyle, Kane Douglas, Steve Cummins honestly what the fuck, are there no tall people in France
19. Caleb Timu, Curtis Browning
20. Luke Jones, Leroy Houston
21. Josh Valentine
22. Rodney Iona, Mitch Inman, Zack Holmes
23. Ben Lucas, Jesse Mogg
Coach: Michael Cheika

Japan:
1. Sam Talakai
2. Efi Ma’afu
3. Paddy Ryan
4. Pat Tafa
5. Sam Jeffries
6. Liam Gill
7. Michael Hooper
8. Sean McMahon
9. Will Genia
10. Quade Cooper
11. Andrew Kellaway
12. Christian Lealiifano
13. Samu Kerevi
14. Joe Tomane
15. Bernard Foley
16. Anaru Rangi
17. Shambeckler Vui
18. Sione Tuipulotu (Looks like a prop)
19. Esei Ha'angana, Harry Hockings
20. Ed Quirk, Jordan Smiler, Ben Gunter, Jed Holloway, Ned Hanigan
21. Matt Lucas
22. Rahboni Warren-Vosayaco, Semisi Tupou, Tom English
23. Isaac Lucas, Will Chambers
Coach: Phil Mooney
 

Dctarget

Tim Horan (67)
Everyone wants our locks, no one really cares for our front row.

I think the Japanese team would destroy the others. The backrow is fire as is the backline.

Just to round it out the US retirement XV:
1. Smith 1.0
2. Hugh Roach
3. Charlie Abel
4. Van Stewart
5. Luke Beauchamp
6. Angus Cottrell
7. Dave Dennis
8. Maclean Jones
9. Harrison Goddard
10. Luke Burton
11. Cam Clarke
12. Billy Meakes (2022)
13.
14. Robbie Coleman
15. Mack Mason
16. Mahe Vailanu
17. Smith 2.0
18. Tim Metcher
19.
20. Christian Poidevin
21. De Wet Roos
22. Sam Windsor
23. Peni Tagive
 

upthereds#!

Peter Johnson (47)
London Irish put out a team today that had over 320 Wallabies caps:
Phipps (70)
Coleman (34)
Kepu (106)
Simmons (105)

Got me thinking which NH competition has the best Aussie Expat Team. Good use of my time in lockdown:


England:
1. Ollie Hoskins
2. James Hanson
3. Sekope Kepu
4. Rob Simmons
5. Adam Coleman
6. Sam Carter*
7. Jordy Reid
8. Scott Fardy*
9. Nick Phipps
10. Jack Walsh
11. Naiyaravoro
12. Ben Tapuai
13. Billy Meakes
14. Curtis Rona
15. Luke Morahan
16.
17. Dylan Evans**
18.
19. Blake Enever
20. Adam Korczyk
21. Ben Meehan
22. Michael Dowsett
23. Kurt Heatherley, Harry Potter
Coach: Billy Millard (Harlequins coach) Stephen Larkham*
*nabbed from Ireland

France:
1. Guy Millar
2. Tolu Latu
3. Paul Alo-Emile
4. Rory Arnold
5. Will Skelton
6. Lopeti Timani
7. Colby Fainga’a
8. Scott Higginbotham
9. Nic Stirzaker
10. Mike Harris
11. CFS
12. Peter Betham
13. Duncan Pai’aua
14. Henry Speight
15. Kurtley Beale
16.
17. Mees Erasmus, David Feao
18. Izack Rodda, Matt Philip, Richie Arnold, Sitaleki Timani, Tom Staniforth, Hugh Pyle, Kane Douglas, Steve Cummins honestly what the fuck, are there no tall people in France
19. Caleb Timu, Curtis Browning
20. Luke Jones, Leroy Houston
21. Josh Valentine
22. Rodney Iona, Mitch Inman, Zack Holmes
23. Ben Lucas, Jesse Mogg
Coach: Michael Cheika

Japan:
1. Sam Talakai
2. Efi Ma’afu
3. Paddy Ryan
4. Pat Tafa
5. Sam Jeffries
6. Liam Gill
7. Michael Hooper
8. Sean McMahon
9. Will Genia
10. Quade Cooper
11. Andrew Kellaway
12. Christian Lealiifano
13. Samu Kerevi
14. Joe Tomane
15. Bernard Foley
16. Anaru Rangi
17. Shambeckler Vui
18. Sione Tuipulotu (Looks like a prop)
19. Esei Ha'angana, Harry Hockings
20. Ed Quirk, Jordan Smiler, Ben Gunter, Jed Holloway, Ned Hanigan
21. Matt Lucas
22. Rahboni Warren-Vosayaco, Semisi Tupou, Tom English
23. Isaac Lucas, Will Chambers
Coach: Phil Mooney

Love this, thanks for putting in the work
* France: 11. Naivalu 12. Beale 13. CFS 14. Speight 15. Mogg --22. Betham

* Japan 4. Hockings 5. Holloway 6. Hanigan 7. Hoops 8. Mcmahon --19. Jeffries 20. Gill
 

upthereds#!

Peter Johnson (47)
That's insane. Shows we have the talent to have an 8 team Australian competition, just not the money to pay them.


8 starting XVs maybe. 5 strong professional squads.

Think there are a number of players in our 33 (or watever) man squads who are lucky to be professionals, whether they are just the last options from around clubland, or teenagers promoted a smidge early.
 

Dctarget

Tim Horan (67)
Super Sefa looks like he's been in good form

Out with injury for at least two months which is why I forgot him! Watching stade français and he hasn’t featured for a while, Latu is there and not making much contribution but PAE is carving it up. Looks bigger than ever and enjoying his rugby.

On that note: watched Simmons give away 3 classic penalties yesterday. Kepu looks well past it, Coleman yet to impress over there. Phipps kicked two out on the full. Louis Lyangh is coming along very nicely, looks like he’s got good rugby smarts. Reads play in défense very well.

Rory Arnold is well received, I was surprised with how high they rated Richie as well. Haven’t seen much of Skelton & Rodda.
 

Jets

Paul McLean (56)
Staff member
Out with injury for at least two months which is why I forgot him! Watching stade français and he hasn’t featured for a while, Latu is there and not making much contribution but PAE is carving it up. Looks bigger than ever and enjoying his rugby.

On that note: watched Simmons give away 3 classic penalties yesterday. Kepu looks well past it, Coleman yet to impress over there. Phipps kicked two out on the full. Louis Lyangh is coming along very nicely, looks like he’s got good rugby smarts. Reads play in défense very well.

Rory Arnold is well received, I was surprised with how high they rated Richie as well. Haven’t seen much of Skelton & Rodda.

He's not the one coming here though, it's his younger brother. Would be nice to pick him up to though.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
He's not the one coming here though, it's his younger brother. Would be nice to pick him up to though.


You'd imagine Louis would need to make a decision to play in Australia within the next two years otherwise he'll end up getting capped for England.

Would be interesting to know which team he wants to play for more. He's played England under 18s and 19s and grown up there but his Dad is a Wallaby legend.

Career wise it wouldn't really make sense turning down playing for England (assuming the opportunity arose) but also staying there to play. His earning potential once he's an international player would be higher.
 

Jets

Paul McLean (56)
Staff member
In an interview ha said he'd be happy to play for Australia, England or Italy. You'd think England would be the front runner as he's spent most of his life there and has been part of their system.
 

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
In an interview ha said he'd be happy to play for Australia, England or Italy. You'd think England would be the front runner as he's spent most of his life there and has been part of their system.

And probably got more chance f being in a successful team?
 

Bandar

Bob Loudon (25)
I believe it's a flaw in our system, I like the way the Welsh operate - they can pick an eligible player anywhere in the world but the player has to return to Wales when their current contract expires if they wish to be eligible for Wales.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
I believe it's a flaw in our system, I like the way the Welsh operate - they can pick an eligible player anywhere in the world but the player has to return to Wales when their current contract expires if they wish to be eligible for Wales.


Well our current set of rules allows the coach to select two overseas based players regardless of the number of caps they have so there is nothing stopping Lynagh being selected.

The reality though is no one is going to pick an uncapped youngster playing overseas though.

Have Wales picked any uncapped players playing outside of Wales? It's a bit different for them as well given that player might be playing in the same comp or in the UK Premiership so they are easier to follow and could attend camp for the same periods etc.
 

KOB1987

John Eales (66)
Interesting that the NRL are trying to lure he whose name is not allowed to be mentioned back via the Dragons. I couldn’t really find anywhere else relevant to post this so here will do.

EDIT: actually it would be worthwhile to add an NRL/league-in-general team to the analysis above. Probably not many tight five contenders but the rest would be up there
 

Dctarget

Tim Horan (67)
Have Wales picked any uncapped players playing outside of Wales? It's a bit different for them as well given that player might be playing in the same comp or in the UK Premiership so they are easier to follow and could attend camp for the same periods etc.

I think Wales do it all the time as does Scotland no? Louis Rees Zammit springs to mind, plays for Gloucester yet debuted for Wales recently. I think Scotland just picked up someone like that too. Cameron Redpath, played for England u20s (he was even selected in England's senior tour of SA but didn't get capped), plays for Bath and will be capped for Scotland this Six Nations.
 
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