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Aussie A back on the agenda

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RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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In a bid to uncover talent before next year's World Cup, the Australia A concept is back on the agenda and the Wallabies are scheduled to play several midweek games during the end-of-season northern hemisphere tour this year.

After the success of the two midweek games during last year's tour, Australian Rugby Union officials are trying to organise two or three extra matches where they can again field fringe Test players, as well as the four internationals in November.

The Wallabies are scheduled to start their northern jaunt in late October with a Bledisloe Cup match in Hong Kong. The next Test is expected to be against Wales in Cardiff, but the match is still to be confirmed, before the Wallabies play England, Italy and France. The extra midweekers against major club sides are likely to be played in England and France, with even a match in Ireland a strong possibility.

Also, when England travel to Australia in June for their two-Test tour, there are plans for midweek games in Perth, before the Subiaco Oval Test, and in NSW, probably in Gosford, Newcastle or Wollongong, before the Sydney international. Rather than England playing the provinces, it is expected the Australia A team, which has played only occasionally in recent seasons, will be reformed for two midweek games.

ARU officials know they must stage as many representative games as possible before the World Cup to give those just outside the Test arena the chance to show off their wares against quality opposition.

Team officials rated the Wallabies' midweek match against Gloucester last November an outright success, especially as it was used by centre Quade Cooper as the stepping stone to get in the Test line-up later that week against England at Twickenham. This had the desired effect of convincing all the back-up players in the Wallabies touring party that they had an important role on that tour and were not just midweek fodder.

Also, Queensland halfback Richard Kingi and winger Luke Morahan stood out against Cardiff.

Very happy with that if at least, particularly the England games, it will be good for the likes of Cowan, Daley, Mowen (although he'd be close to my test squad), Davies, Faingaas, Lealiifano, To'omua, Hocking and Beale.
 
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chief

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I wish the Irish team would play some mid-week tests too, or even the Fiji one.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
Noddy said:
Very happy with that if at least, particularly the England games, it will be good for the likes of Cowan, Daley, Mowen (although he'd be close to my test squad), Davies, Faingaas, Lealiifano, To'omua, Hocking and Beale.

yep ... and others
 

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
I would not be supprised if Aussie Bob is not eyeing Daly off for Wallaby duties, given his love for developing talent and creating depth.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Ruggo said:
I would not be supprised if Aussie Bob is not eyeing Daly off for Wallaby duties, given his love for developing talent and creating depth.

He wold be in their eyes, but he needs to improve his scrummaging.
 

Aussie D

Desmond Connor (43)
I hope the ARU play the game at Gosford as it would be great to see the next tier of Wallaby players live. As long as they don't charge the eartb for people to go they should get a good crowd there, especially considering its proximity to Sydney and Newcastle and the train station is only 500m away.

I don't think the Wallabies will be looking at bringing in any more LHP as we have them in abundance at the moment (Robbo, Kepu, Alexander, Cowan). The one Aussie Robbie would most likely be taking a look at is Weekes, lets hope he continually improves to give the Wallabies more THP options.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Aussie D said:
I don't think the Wallabies will be looking at bringing in any more LHP as we have them in abundance at the moment (Robbo, Kepu, Alexander, Cowan). The one Aussie Robbie would most likely be taking a look at is Weekes, lets hope he continually improves to give the Wallabies more THP options.

Robbo - best in the world, but we need depth.
Kepu - yeah, can cover both, but will be groomed as a THP too I reckon.
Alexander - our best THP, unfortunately playing LHP
Cowan - will probably continue to be groomed as hooker, and fair enough given our depth.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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what's the difference between Australia A and Australian Barbarians? Funding? Does the ARU not cover the cost of the baabaas? Are the eligibility constraints still in place for a baabaas game, i.e. playing for them binds a player to the national team?

The touring England squad will play two midweek matches against an Australian Barbarians side boasting established internationals and emerging Test contenders during their much-anticipated visit in June.

Adding to a schedule headlined by their Cook Cup showdowns with the Qantas Wallabies on 12 June in Perth and 19 June in Sydney, England will also play the Australian Barbarians on the Tuesday before each Test as part of the Bundaberg Rum Rugby Series.

The Australian Barbarians will take on the 2003 Rugby World Cup champions and 2007 Rugby World Cup runners-up at ME Bank Stadium in Perth, home of the Western Force, on 8 June.

The match will be the first the Australian Barbarians have played against a visiting international side since downing Scotland 39-34 in Penrith in 1998.

The second game against England will be staged at Central Coast Stadium in Gosford on 15 June.

Qantas Wallabies coach Robbie Deans has welcomed the addition of the two Australian Barbarians fixtures to the England tour schedule.

“These games provide massive benefit for both the Qantas Wallabies program and Australian Rugby as a whole,” Deans said.

“The midweek matches we played on our Spring Tour last year were a great example of the benefits the additional international exposure provides.

“Quade Cooper played his way into our side for the Test against England the following weekend when we played Gloucester.

“Kurtley Beale also excelled that night, and wound up playing his first Test later in the trip.

“Luke Morahan then made his debut for the Wallabies at Cardiff, and has subsequently kicked on this year with the Queensland Reds in the Investec Bank Super 14.”

Deans says the Australian Barbarians will field strong line-ups, based around form performers from the Investec Bank Super 14.

The Baabaas will also have a significant Wallabies component within their combination.

“There will be players from the Qantas Wallabies squad involved in both matches,” Deans said.

While the average age in the Wallabies squad has lowered significantly on Deans’ watch, the Barbarians matches against England will allow Australians to glimpse even more future stars.

“Not only will potential Test places be on the line in these games, they are also invaluable opportunities for us to gauge players as part of the bigger picture, looking ahead to next year’s Rugby World Cup,” he said

“I’d imagine England coach Martin Johnson is taking a similar view.”

Australian Barbarians president Charles Blunt said recognition for his organisation was acknowledgment of the traditions and values the Club represents.

“It’s fantastic that the Australian Barbarians have their name up there again on the domestic Rugby calendar, and in a very significant way with the opportunity of these two matches against England,” he said.

“We’re excited about this ARU initiative and hope that it may be an enduring venture into the future.

“The Barbarians have a wonderful history and we have been trying to raise our profile in recent times.

“The visit by the British Barbarians to play the Wallabies in Sydney last year certainly helped in terms of awareness of the Barbarians name and these two games in June will further add to that level of presence within Australian Rugby.”

The two matches in Perth will be the first England has played in the city since starting their triumphant 2003 Rugby World Cup campaign there seven years ago.

The tour will also mark the return of Jonny Wilkinson to Australia, pending selection, for the first time since his memorable role in the securing of the William Webb Ellis Cup.

Tickets for the two midweek matches have been set at $30 for reserved seating and $15 for general admission, with family passes of four available at $60 and $30 respectively.

Both matches will go on sale to the general public on 19 May.

The England squad, after four matches in Australia, will conclude their Southern Hemisphere tour with a game against the New Zealand Maori in Napier on 23 June.

ENGLAND TOUR ITINERARY

Tues, 8 June
v Australian Barbarians at ME Stadium, Perth

Sat, 12 June
v QANTAS WALLABIES at Subiaco Oval, Perth

Tues, 15 June
v Australian Barbarians at Central Coast Stadium, Gosford

Sat, 19 June
v QANTAS WALLABIES at ANZ Stadium, Sydney

Wed, 23 June
v New Zealand Maori at Napier (NZ)

MAJOR MATCHES INVOLVING AUSTRALIAN BARBARIANS SINCE RUGBY WENT PROFESSIONAL IN 1996

1997 Australian Barbarians 26 France 25
1998 Australian Barbarians 39 Scotland 34
1999 Australian Barbarians 33 New Zealand “A” 24
1999 New Zealand “A” 40 Australian Barbarians 17
2001 Fijian Barbarians 56 Australian Barbarians 38
 

the gambler

Dave Cowper (27)
Noddy said:
what's the difference between Australia A and Australian Barbarians? Funding? Does the ARU not cover the cost of the baabaas? Are the eligibility constraints still in place for a baabaas game, i.e. playing for them binds a player to the national team?

The touring England squad will play two midweek matches against an Australian Barbarians side boasting established internationals and emerging Test contenders during their much-anticipated visit in June.

Adding to a schedule headlined by their Cook Cup showdowns with the Qantas Wallabies on 12 June in Perth and 19 June in Sydney, England will also play the Australian Barbarians on the Tuesday before each Test as part of the Bundaberg Rum Rugby Series.

The Australian Barbarians will take on the 2003 Rugby World Cup champions and 2007 Rugby World Cup runners-up at ME Bank Stadium in Perth, home of the Western Force, on 8 June.

The match will be the first the Australian Barbarians have played against a visiting international side since downing Scotland 39-34 in Penrith in 1998.

The second game against England will be staged at Central Coast Stadium in Gosford on 15 June.

Qantas Wallabies coach Robbie Deans has welcomed the addition of the two Australian Barbarians fixtures to the England tour schedule.

“These games provide massive benefit for both the Qantas Wallabies program and Australian Rugby as a whole,” Deans said.

“The midweek matches we played on our Spring Tour last year were a great example of the benefits the additional international exposure provides.

“Quade Cooper played his way into our side for the Test against England the following weekend when we played Gloucester.

“Kurtley Beale also excelled that night, and wound up playing his first Test later in the trip.

“Luke Morahan then made his debut for the Wallabies at Cardiff, and has subsequently kicked on this year with the Queensland Reds in the Investec Bank Super 14.”

Deans says the Australian Barbarians will field strong line-ups, based around form performers from the Investec Bank Super 14.

The Baabaas will also have a significant Wallabies component within their combination.

“There will be players from the Qantas Wallabies squad involved in both matches,” Deans said.

While the average age in the Wallabies squad has lowered significantly on Deans’ watch, the Barbarians matches against England will allow Australians to glimpse even more future stars.

“Not only will potential Test places be on the line in these games, they are also invaluable opportunities for us to gauge players as part of the bigger picture, looking ahead to next year’s Rugby World Cup,” he said

“I’d imagine England coach Martin Johnson is taking a similar view.”

Australian Barbarians president Charles Blunt said recognition for his organisation was acknowledgment of the traditions and values the Club represents.

“It’s fantastic that the Australian Barbarians have their name up there again on the domestic Rugby calendar, and in a very significant way with the opportunity of these two matches against England,” he said.

“We’re excited about this ARU initiative and hope that it may be an enduring venture into the future.

“The Barbarians have a wonderful history and we have been trying to raise our profile in recent times.

“The visit by the British Barbarians to play the Wallabies in Sydney last year certainly helped in terms of awareness of the Barbarians name and these two games in June will further add to that level of presence within Australian Rugby.”

The two matches in Perth will be the first England has played in the city since starting their triumphant 2003 Rugby World Cup campaign there seven years ago.

The tour will also mark the return of Jonny Wilkinson to Australia, pending selection, for the first time since his memorable role in the securing of the William Webb Ellis Cup.

Tickets for the two midweek matches have been set at $30 for reserved seating and $15 for general admission, with family passes of four available at $60 and $30 respectively.

Both matches will go on sale to the general public on 19 May.

The England squad, after four matches in Australia, will conclude their Southern Hemisphere tour with a game against the New Zealand Maori in Napier on 23 June.

ENGLAND TOUR ITINERARY

Tues, 8 June
v Australian Barbarians at ME Stadium, Perth

Sat, 12 June
v QANTAS WALLABIES at Subiaco Oval, Perth

Tues, 15 June
v Australian Barbarians at Central Coast Stadium, Gosford

Sat, 19 June
v QANTAS WALLABIES at ANZ Stadium, Sydney

Wed, 23 June
v New Zealand Maori at Napier (NZ)

MAJOR MATCHES INVOLVING AUSTRALIAN BARBARIANS SINCE RUGBY WENT PROFESSIONAL IN 1996

1997 Australian Barbarians 26 France 25
1998 Australian Barbarians 39 Scotland 34
1999 Australian Barbarians 33 New Zealand “A” 24
1999 New Zealand “A” 40 Australian Barbarians 17
2001 Fijian Barbarians 56 Australian Barbarians 38

Can you imagine Deans sitting there spitting out THE INVESTEC Super 14 and THE QANTAS Wallabies?
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
Staff member
I wonder why they will be branding the team the Australian Barbarians? and not just Aus A?

Easier to Market the games?
 
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TOCC

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i reckon its got to do with money, remember that shit last year when they players wanted to paid the full rate for the Probables vs Possibles...

By making it a Australian Barbarians team it probably sits outside that ARU/RUPA payment structure allowing them to market the game and pay the players a fee less then test match fees.
 
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